@anon20147451 Thank you, brother.
I appreciate you taking the time and effort to reach out and give some helpful advice.
@anon20147451 Thank you, brother.
One demon comes my.mind after reading your novel.
Im yet to work with him, but hes the guy you are looking for.
@ElectricDragon, yes. I’m considering him. Maybe Beleth or another?
I have a little over a month to decide on who, and start building that relationship.
Thank you very much for your help. It’s greatly appreciated.
For mind control Dantalion n King Paimon
Idk if beleth would be a good choice for this.
Whatever you want, it can and will happen if you work to make it happen. What you really should be doing now is to have clear vision of what you want. From the big picture to the smallest detail. Once you have that in your mind… call Satan. Satan is the God of Gods. The ALL. When you’re not sure which demon to contact, or when you need something too complicated for one specific demon to handle… then Satan is the one to contact. From my experience.
But you must be very very specific with him. And prepare for two things : hard work and sacrifice. When I say hard work, I mean you will need to make important changes… and work magick short and long term to have the effect you desire. It’s not going to be a spell or two that you perform in a day then wait for results. If what you want requires a sacrifice from you… you will be forced to do that. Satan will use you, the same way he will be using the whole universe to get what you want.
Not all people can handle that and not all people like it. But at the end, you will get exactly what you want. Whatever it is.
Please remember. In my opinion and according to my experience, Satan is NOT a demon. You won’t be “working with him” the same way you work with other spirits. “here is my request, and here is your offering… nice doing business with you!”… No. When you’re working with Satan… that means he is GOD for you. THE God. And you should deal with him as such. I don’t mean worship him church-style… I mean follow his commands, his guidance, his visions… surrender to his plan, trust him etc
My suggestion, Try other demons-spirits first… if all failed and you still want it… then Satan will get it done if you’re prepared and ready to do anything to have it.
The thing is, and yes it’s hypocritical and contradicting, is I don’t want to control or “rule” her. I genuinely do live this person and want to marry her someday.
Do for her, give to her, provide for her, have children with her (if she ever wanted that)
My issue is breaking down whatever wall people tell me she has, and opening up communication again.
The reason I’m going through “black” magick, is because they’re a bit more of a “rebal” nature. Sorta have nothing to lose to give you want you desire, if approached correctly, as to angels, who have something to lose, if they bend the will of the universe.
@PrinceX, I’m very hesitant towards Satan.
As far as I know, he’s the only one who would desire “worship” from me.
Not like bowing on my knees, and giving tithes to, but more like you said.
I’m not sure I’m at that point yet. Not that this wouldn’t be worth it, I’ve just never thought about it.
And I certainly won’t be disrespectful to Satan, or any other diety, and summon them to discuss such a thing, that I wasn’t 100% sure on yet.
But it is an interesting point, and I thank you very much for that information.
It is Definitely something to consider if all else fails.
Thank you again.
Thats y i said
Idk bout rest. From what read sallos him, hes the one you are looking for.
Yes, Definitely my first choice before Satan. Lol
No disrespect to Satan of course.
Does it matter if she believes in magick though?
I wouldn’t think so, since it’s my effort/energy being put out there, but maybe I’m wrong on that thinking?
Instead of calling demons to subjugate her, I recommend Saspu, the Angel of Love and Friendship from Kingdoms of Flame. If there is love on her end, he can bring it to fruition.
Edit to add: I see in your opening post that you tried Lotir, but she is only only concerned with True Love, so that might explain why you had no result. Saspu or Tul would be better, in my opinion. Tul can reveal to you what is needed to win her heart.
Having a choice is ok, but loling might not be. Be careful about who you lol
It wont matter if she beleives in magick or not.
Magick is dope stuff, it works!
Thank you very much for this information. It’s greatly appreciated.
Yes, I did try Lotir, and got a call from her after I texted her, as I posted.
I can definitely say there’s true love on my end. On hers, I can’t say there is or isn’t, since I don’t know what’s truly going on in her mind. I know she cares, and has love for me. To what level, I can not say for sure.
But yes, I will look into Tul, or Saspu.
There’s not alot of information outside of this site about either of them, but I will definitely do some research.
I do have some time to figure out the correct path, bit the sooner I find that path, the better obviously.
Again, thank you very much for this information.
Yes, I will keep the loling to a minimum.
And okay, great.
I always believed that just because you don’t believe in something, doesn’t make it unreal, but I didn’t know if Magick was different.
Thanks again, brother.
Tul and Saspu aren’t really known outside of this forum because they are only found in EA’s grimoire Kingdoms of Flame, so you won’t find much on the interwebs about them. Both their sigils have been posted on the forum though if you need them. A search should turn them up.
@DarkestKnight, yes I actually have both of them.
Question, would it be disrespectful of me to try and evoke either of them to simply discuss the situation?
Of course I would give offerings for there time, but would I be disrespectful to try and communicate first, to see if either would consider helping, or would they frown upon that?
Absolutely not. It’s not disrespectful at all. I hold Q & A’s with spirits all the time. i made a thread about it:
And you don’t need an offering to call them up to discuss the situation.
@DarkestKnight, omg wow! That’s awesome. I’m definitely gonna read your forum. Thank you so much!
One last thing.
In your personal experience, do you find that the angels/demons in EA’s KOF are actually real?
I only ask because there’s so much information everywhere about specific angels and demons, but only in KOF does it mention those particular diety’s.
Even Ladilok, Sastan, and Lotir are almost impossible to find.
(And please excuse this question if it appears dumb. I’m still new to this path.)
Yes, contrary to some people’s opinions, the beings of Kingdoms of Flame are very real, just as real as any other demon or angel. There are an infinite number of spirits in the multiverse, and it is just silly to assume that humans have encountered even one tenth of them. Some people, even on this forum, think the entities in KoF are egregores created by EA simply because no one has ever seen them before, but that in no way means they are made up. Someone had to be the first to encounter and write about the demons of the Goetia too.
I have worked with the beings from Kingdoms of Flame a lot, and have found them to be just as powerful as any demon from the Goetia. If they are egregores, then EA is the strongest mage on the planet because to create beings at that level would take a hell of a lot of power.