Loan Repayment

Hi guys,

I’ve kind of scoured this entire forum but haven’t found what I needed. I’ve thought about kind of piecing together a few things but, idk. Does anyone have a method to compel someone to repay money they were loaned?

Try this one: it’s customizable

from the 3rd post down in here: Unofficial Tutorials: Money and Wealth Collection

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You can try some spirits of influence like King Paimon or Dantalion.

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See I thought about putting something together with either of them. I’m just unsure if I should just ask or create a ritual? @DarkestKnight idk if I hit the reply button lolol

I’m assuming it’s safe to stack them all?

You can call them together in the same ritual if that’s what you mean, yes.

You may feel tired afterwards and that’s ok, it’s called “magickal fatigue” and doesn’t mean anything more than you ran more energy through you than you are used to. Rest and good food will fix that in time.

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I forgot to ask, what offerings should I make to King Paimon? I can’t find anything here. I see threads about him but nothing about offerings.

I found something on another site saying fresh fruits like oranges, sweets like chocolate, classical music, and wine are all options.

Nothing, he’s not your whore, don’t treat it like a transaction. Make him a nice prezzie to say thank you after it works, and include real, heartfelt gratitude, that’s worth your weight in gold.

Interesting advice. Mages are often advised to make offerings, even blood offerings, as part of the petition or the entity could be offended. It’s interesting to have this new take, and it makes some more sense, I think.

The mages that get the intention and/or visualisation focused in, get the manifestation on track. Chucking tokens at it and expecting it to work like a grocery store checkout, doesn’t cut it. Not enough energy.

The entire point of the offering is as a vehicle for the energy and intention, not a substitute, that’s why it’s optional. So it would be better to offer nothing and really focus on that energy transfer, than assume you’ve done your part with an orange and have it fizzle.

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I’m actually REALLY good at visualization and have no issues making contact with deities, entities, or spirits. I was asking about offerings as a form of respect. I gave Duke Dantalion, Lucifer, and others offerings so I assumed it worked the same. My bad

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In that case just give them that emotion. Offerings are a vehicle, not a substitute, so an orange is not in itself, respect. You are giving an orange because you respect, it’s not quite the same thing. And that means you can offer anything you feel is going to best represent your respect.

But if you really wanted to show respect, you’d ask the entity if they wanted anything, and if so, what they wanted.

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