A friend - with benefit - and I are plannig to do a magickal and sexual pathworking with Lilith, the plan is to cast a circle, raise a sacred space, call lilith, and start doing sexual practices and invoking Lilith in the act, with that said I would like to hear about:
How do you perform sexual magick with spirits? and if you have any reading to recommend,
How to effectively stimulate Kundalini through sexual magick and Lilith
If you have any ritual template to inspire myself from? like give offerings, ask lilith to strenghen her presence, and undertake the sexual act? or we simply go with the flow?
What did Lilith teach you in general, whether it is sexual or general gnosis? not mainstream info but I’m curious to hear about your own UPG
How do you approach, what does she like? what kind of behaviour? offerings? associations with her?
Do you use sigil charging in the act? what would be a creative form of charging sigils? painting them on errogenous zones of the body perhaps?
I don’t know myself, but while your waiting for other ideas, this is covered in some depth in the work of Mark Allen Smith in Primal Ceaft. His is with Hecate but you’ll get the gist.
I think it’s something like the male invokes Lucifer and the Female invokes Hecate (or in your case Lilith) and perform the ritual as those entities. It’s been years since I read it, and I didn’t finish it, but the books are free online as they are devotional efforts rather than for money.
Hi Mulberry, thanks as usual.
Yes I am in fact a devotee of the primal current but I would like to try something beyond the current and please my companion with Lilith since she is being obssessed by Lilith
But it’s a perfect suggestion, I will adapt the sexual possession rite of Hecate to Lilith.
But I was thinking that perhaps as a first time we should both invoke Lilith only for this time and experiment?
I don’t know, Lilith is feminine and unless your partner is bi and into being with you as a feminine being, that might not make for great sexy times In the lore the husband of Lilith is Samael I think? Also an archangel but somehow above the usual 7 and sometimes depicted as one of the 7 or sometimes as a demon, with a ton to offer from a personal development perspective, what about invoking his energy?
Both Lilith and Samael are said to mean “Poison of God” and I see them as the yin and yang aspects of the energy of justice, death and the passing away of things who’s time it is to pass.
I work with Samael as my Mentor, I don’t work with Lilith because I am already female and Samael balances me in my work with him. I don’t find the sexual aspects of Lilith to be real or interesting, I think that’s mostly stuff added on to her original lore: if you look it up she started as basically a monster explaining why babies die a lot, and used later as an excuse to tell women they have to be submissive, which developed into fap fodder. I always prefer to go back to the earliest stories myself, and avoid the newer egregores.
I don’t know if mixing these traditions is going to be helpful - the kabbalah uses the tree of life and death, and there’s that middle pillar technique, rather than using the model of a chakra system, I would say focus on the middle pillar maybe. Then add in third party systems while you have that in hand.
My only experience with Lilith was because I was experimenting with each of the sphere in the tree of death, using Jehannum’s routine. I got an egregoric, dominatrix version, which impressed me not at all, who offered me an incubus which I declined. She seemed warm and pretty nice though. I do not fraternize with lesser entities on principle, as part of protecting my energy - the risk of attracting parasites is not really worth it imo.
In my UPG, human sexuality is more like the energy o creation seem through the lens of an animal that needs to procreate biologically. When accessing that energy spiritually, I personally see the fuzzy animal layer falling away, and revealing something more like lighting.
I once had an interesting trance state masturbation session, where as time passed I could “see” leaders coming off my energy system, and the climax looked and felt like lighting striking my body when these leaders connected to something in the ether outside myself. I had a sense of receiving spiritual information, but it was not in a forum I could translate. Makes little sense to me yet but is something I have to investigate, as this seems purposeful.
I don’t do offerings as a rule. If I feel called I may bring a gift in gratitude for a successful working, but the gits is really my energy f gratitude, not the physical token I’ve hooked that to.
I tend to use a sigil to make first contact the most. Once we have met, and I know what a spirit’s true name is, which is basically it’s energy signature, the sigil isn’t se necessary, but it can still be enjoyable to use from your own perspective, to help you stay focused and your intent strong.
So I would suggest something like …
Design a ritual space, make it nice with idk, statuettes or symbols of your entities, set the mood and lighting
Start the ritual by cleansing the space and drawing a circle of protection
Invoke the entities
Go with the flow and let the entities act through you
You might sleep afterwards. When ready to return, still in the ritual space, thank the entities and let them depart, cleanse the space if you feel the need, and close out the circle, clear up the space and set it back to normal mundane space intentionally.
Get something to eat or otherwise ground yourselves
Thank you, a lot of food for thoughts and experimentation.
I see Lilith as representing the dark feminine polarity as a symbol of the dark feminine, Ie instincts, emotions, sexuality, raw power, serpents, the underworld, and death, I do not see her as female at all to be honest, not in our humanistic sense.
Actually I am a men and Lilith made me far more masculine-magnetic that any other spirit, and oddly enough, I never approach Lilith with sex in mind but it was her energy that were exploding my kundalini and sexual energies and forced me to find a companion to transmute this energy, likewise for the Spider Queen Sepheranz, I think they represent raw sexuality in its primal form.
In the lore the husband of Lilith is Samael I think? Also an archangel but somehow above the usual 7 and sometimes depicted as one of the 7 or sometimes as a demon, with a ton to offer from a personal development perspective, what about invoking his energy?