Lets cut down this evocation ritual to it's bare essentials (it's the evocation ritual's bare essentials, making it possessive.)

No. Cause I haven’t tried it. But I’m gonna. I wanna hear what you guys say first.

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I define magic as exploiting mystical connection to the transcendental noumenal for effect upon the phenomenally real.

You have either devised for yourself a magical praxis here with this or you haven’t. That’s what I think.

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I know it will work. There’s no reason it won’t if the others do.

Maybe you might see that as a vain standpoint, but it lines up with a lot of other changes I’ve made to similar practices.

These beings transcend time and space. The hard part isn’t getting them there, the hard part is appeasing them so they’re fine with coming. They usually are. The harder part is actually sensing them, but that gets easier. Way easier. As long as you believe it will work, there isn’t a reason it shouldn’t work. I suggest even leaving out an offering to whomever you’re calling upon.

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I wouldn’t say they transcend time and space, more like their time and space flows a bit different than our own, however, I think the hardest part for some is being respectful and getting to understand them rather than quickly demanding things as a lot of magicians tend to do. That and patience.

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You dont need tools, you are right.

You need to be able to enter theta-gamma sync, be able to establish a connection with the entity and feel its energy, deepen the trance to the crossroads state while building the structure in your mind, project the structure into the physical and have the entity to solidify before you. The entities energy will condense into the structure and give it form, kind of like ectoplasm. You can do this because in the ritual you are becoming the Operator, and calling upon your own innate god-like powers.

Structuring takes practice for a lot of people.

There are already threads about stripping evocation away from more traditional styles. You more or less did it here.

I think EA does a good job of that as well. There is a lot of discussion about his methods already.

I am sure you have seen Lady Eva’s Simple English guide.

In the end, the methodology does not matter. What matters is you get results.

If you dont like the LBRP xD Dont do the LBRP. As its been said, the magician is his own most powerful tool.

I wouldnt necessarily say that. If you are calling them as a God (like you say in your own OP), with your true innate power, they will show up and don’t need appeasing. You are not some sniveling worshiper, bowing down to them. You are not above the spirits either (at this point). You are their equal at the very least, because you are embracing your God-self when you are in that space of evocation. Treat them like one. If that happens to include, oh I have some incense that you like, or I have some wine for you, then so be it. It is nice to make sure guests are comfortable after all, like offering your friend a drink.

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To be honest, it’s all just psychodrama (ritual, tools, visualizations, even words) to facilitate the right energetic sequencing to bring about an externalized connection with whatever you happen to be after. With the proper training & preparation you could just as easily say ‘Ey Dawg, get your ass over here’ to get the same effect as a larper prancing about in robes in a spooky environment. This is just blunt facts with my own whimsical choice of words to explain it. Hell, a person could even do it with a literal snap of the fingers once they thoroughly understand the nature of the functions & principles involved, if they were inclined. Borrowing Tesla’s descriptions of the three basics involved: Energy, Frequency, Vibration.

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I’ve successfully evoked. I just can’t see them. They tell me they’re here telepathically

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Magick brought to you by generation Z :clap:

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_ I mean, ts better no

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Even the chanting/enns are unnecessary. I don’t print or draw any sigil I was able to find easily either.

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I guess it isn’t! Just sort of will them forth!

Though I suppose you should specify them to come in their own form, especially if you’re used to invocation

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I agree.

I disagree in the majority of cases, at least thst I’ve encountered.

Agree. It is Debatable however, who will get there and who is already there. How they will get there is debatable as well.

I can’t even say that I’ve ever done thst. My tools don’t typically exceed much more than a pillow under my ass and my phone with a sigil pulled up if I desire.

Sometimes I draw sigils I struggle to find in my book however. For example until I purchased kof I would struggle to find the sigil for Tul. I worked with Tul, five or six times (id have to go through my notes and count to be certain).

Idk if I ever tried just googling Tul sigil, but I’d type it into the search bar and have to scan most of the post before I found one with it.

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I think I cared last night but I can’t right now for some reason. Welp!

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Well, you got a decent first half, but what about dismissing the spirit and psychological retraction?

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I just thank the spirit for it’s time and say “feel free to leave whenever you’re ready.” Once they’re gone, I cleanse the energies (unless I like them) and go about my day.

If you’re feeling ungrounded, do some mundane stuff? That’s not an entire half, and should be common knowledge, but I figure it’s something I should put in, yeah.

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You’d be surprised. :smiley:

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This…So much this.

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Update:

Evocations aren’t very hard at all. You can even think of the name of the spirit, and it could come. It is as simple as manipulating energy. It is as simple as calling a name.

The most important factor is the input and the perceived result.

If you think doing something will have the result you want, do it, and it will, in evocation.

So basically you can imagine the requisite being whatever and when it’s met, the spirit being evoked.

Personally I just take their name and bring in the entity behind it. It’s usually instant.

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