Layered spells and petitioning for Love workings

[Mulberry]

@DantalionsChild

people share knowledge without much moralising and such

Well, that’s literally against the rules If you see moralizing on a “working thread” - meaning a thread that is discussing solutions - (or other rule breaks) as a member you have the ability to hit the Flag icon and anonymously let a mod know there’s an issue.

See:

@FiliusHecate

Preaching dogmas and indoctrinations. This includes, but is not limited to, moralising, preaching karma, or the “law of three-fold return” etc

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@DantalionsChild

why Belial?

To be honest, I did not write those posts I just linked to them as the forum’s Librarian and general busy body. I’ve been here less than half the forums lifetime (maybe 5 years now) but I’ve read a lot of it and remember when I’ve seen posts that could help. I learned most of what I know about the Western occult from this forum and E.A.

I also like to hint that there’s 13 years of good stuff here if people would just try the search, there’s SO Much people are missing it’s not even funny.

So, about Belial… if you read the post the OP tell you:

So, this is working with Belial in his capacity as the Breaker of Chains.

This is something you’ll see form time to time in grimoires - but run on yourself. I’ve noticed it in Corwin Hargrove’s Jinn Magic, and Sorceress Cagliastro’s 29 Deadly Sigils, (2 of my personal faves) - there will be a working that is kind of preparing you as a mage to do the work, by clearing blocks and getting you to hand yourself permission to do it. So he’s good for that too. Also breaking addictions, and bindings. I’m a fan, but full disclosure I have Belial permanently invoked, so I would say that, I like me as I am.

@DantalionsChild

It is one of the hardest demons to work with - in terms he used to burn everything in your life down before rebuilding it

I don’t know why you’d say that. He won’t coddle you, he won’t do for you what you can do for yourself, but there’s no reason to expect that unless you ask for it. Intention is important. Make sure it’s super clear and you know what you want.

If you read around this forum, Belial is a popular guy and the vast majority of people don’t have this kind of issue. But they don’t ask for recklessness. They ask for help with practical issue like law or workplace oppression.
He didn’t do it to me.

And, what if there’s noting wrong with your life that would need rebuilding?

So… don’t do that?
It’s your magick, there’s no reason for you to give that kind of permission if you think it’s a risk but don’t want to go there.

You’re the operator, you are in charge.

Intention. Is. Everything.