Hi, I am a Goetia practitioner and have recently been working with King Paimon. He is a very interesting spirit, but sometimes I think some of his aspects aren’t always discussed. He mainly has to do with intellectual things, however I feel him very sensual… I don’t really know if he asks for a sexual offering, sometimes it seemed like that, I wouldn’t want to do anything wrong. Do you have similar experiences with him?
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Once you get into talking with an learning from entities directly, you make your own relationship. For as many people that don’t have the same experience there will be some that do, or maybe none…
This is called UPG - Unverified Personal Gnosis. It means you will get info that nobody else has ever got, it might even sound so crazy you choose to never tell people about it, and that’s ok.
This forum allows UPG. What I suggest it to frame it as your experience rather than trying to tell other people it’s “the Truth™” and then it’s clear you’re not telling people what to think.
This article by occult author Aaron Leitch explains all you need to know about UPG, including how not to get caught in the trap of building pink castles in the sky.
Follow your intuition and do whatever you want to do.
“Do as thou wilt, unde the law: love is the law.” - Crowley
In my experience (UPG), King Paimon is not asexual, however, he’s private and particular about his sex partners. People who’ve had intimate experiences with him have typically been told that these are private, personal moments and not for the sake of titillating random horny mages on the public, permanent internet.
The reason you feel sensual is because his presence activates your root and sacral chakras and this energy translates in a human into arousal if you aren’t directing it into something else, that’s just a normal flow for it to take.
If King Paimon wants sex from you as a matter of course of a lesson, you’ll know. It will be unambiguous, he will be quite clear about the reasons why, and consent will be explicit and contractual in its nature. Unlike some certain demonic kings who get around to flirting with anyone who’s open for it and are thrilled to take your sexual energy as an offering any time, King Paimon is a tasteful, respectful gentleman. He doesn’t kiss and tell and he doesn’t want his followers whom he’s intimate with using his respectful, purposeful intimacy to try gain influence in public communities. There is absolute intent from him if sex ends up occurring, and I don’t believe you’d find yourself asking, “I don’t know if he’s asking for a sexual offering.” He will be very clear that it’s not an offering, it’s going to occur at this time if, and only if you consent, and it’s for a specific reason (such as healing a sexual trauma preventing your energy from flowing) or it’s because he wants an ongoing committed sexual relationship with you.
That said, in this forum’s history there’s at least two people (neither of whom seem to be around anymore) who have posted about their relationships with him having a sexual or romantic tone and I’ve seen at least one on Reddit. These people would have all described their relationship as “spouse”, so you see, based on that, outside of my UPG, I can infer King Paimon isn’t a one night stand wanker. I have straight up talked to him about this, hence the UPG, but it’s nice to see other people perceiving his preferences in the same way I do.
That also said, I’ve seen many people report feeling arousal as a matter of course with the work and it’s up to you to ask how you should direct that. Do what you will. This is just my personal gnosis.
Thanks for all your advice!
I’m still at the starting point with King Paimon.
I usually feel his energy so powerful, so room-filling, and quite calming.
It’s clear to me that he is not a night club guy (me too) but a private and respectful Spirit, and I feel comfortable with that.
I don’t know if “sexual offering” are the right words, I meant I didn’t know if that kind of energy was okay for him, or it was just me projecting that onto him.
Well, let me clarify that what I personally mean when I’m referring to the words, “sexual offering” is the practice of masturbating while thinking about a specific entity or looking at a sigil, and, either ejaculating on the sigil or using sexual fluid otherwise acquired by hand. I believe this practice is more common in chaos magick but is used by some demon workers as well, particularly those in work with sexual entities. I am also referring to the practice of having spirit sex with an entity either in the physical or astral as an offering.
King Paimon is not particularly a sexual entity compared to one that’s extremely well known for being sexual such as King Asmodeus, but he is not strictly asexual either. While I would consider it unlikely that he’s winding you up for his entertainment, he wouldn’t be offended that you’re aroused as a matter of your energy pooling in your lower two chakras. If you want to assess if that’s the case, work on spreading your energy through all of your chakras when you sense it rising there. If you want to assess if he’s “flirting” with you, just ask. It’s unlikely given as you’ve only just met him quite recently, but not out of the question.