It's all starting to seem so fake

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I joined this website 5-6 months ago, due to the life issues I had been having, to try and contact demons and other Gods. I read posts, conversed, read books etc. Even read about Hermeticism and had my whole belief system about religion shaken.
So I did more research and I did the rituals. Multiple times and in different ways. I meditated. Had many different offerings ready. Everything that was asked or suggested. Tried to contact Lucifer, Satan, Clauneck, Paimon, and Belial. To make pacts, to worship, etc. for all reasons really. For 6 months, and nothing. No signs, no dreams, not even tinglings or feelings of any sort.
Towards the end I was tired, so I started cussing and swearing at them. To get any reactions out of them, even if its out of hate. Maybe to believe or see something and know its been real all along. Or maybe I was just tired?

Anyone who has read my past posts, I had a lot of life issues. Since then I got a job, my gf broke up with me, I dated a someone new and I broke up with her. My grandmother died. Made new friends, let go of some. So pretty much my life at no point got better or worse, as a sign that I’m being helped or … the opposite. Anything that happened was because I tried or I didn’t want to try.

Does anyone have definitive proof? I was born in a religious family. I believe in all of it. And I know what it’s like to be helped at a hard time in your life. I’ve been in sticky situations and asked God for help and had dreams, felt something, and came out of semi-impossible situations. Yeah, it could’ve been cause I worked towards it and got lucky but at least I saw signs, I felt like I was being helped.
And I went in to this believing it all, open to everything. Yeah, another question why did I switch my faith etc. Hermeticism! I needed to learn more, and I know some things I could achieve through demons and Gods that I couldn’t in my religion (which there’s a saying in: Don’t think to much about God and his existent. because you’ll get confused and lose faith. Heard it since I was a kid…). I also have an IQ of 138. It’s not something to brag about but I know I’m not dumb, smarter than average so I know it’s not about that.
Charles Babbage, a famous mathematician who attempted to summon Satan using a method that I tried as well, which didn’t work for neither of us and he stated that it maybe was because he didn’t have enough faith in the power of Satan. I did…
And all these old tales I’ve heard of Robert Johnson (crossroad blues) and how he made a deal with the devil. Or someone else who I think might’ve made a deal and no one talks about, “pistol Pete” Maravich who said “I don’t want to play 10 years in the NBA and die of a heart attack at age 40” and ended up dying at 40 due to a heart attack. These tales made me believe all this might be possible or at least a good possibility.

But here? I hear all these stories of Demons helping them progress in life or their jobs. Can’t that be just because you tried harder at your job or had a lucky break?
These stories about how demons helped someone get a girl/boy. Couldn’t it be because you just went after them and won them over?
I mean the best “definitive proof” I’ve seen here is Demons having sex with someone. Half of this website has become a fictional erotica of humans and demons like the weird hentai ads you see on porn sites.

Anyone whom I chatted with and gave me suggestions, I’d always ask have you seen them? It’d be followed by explanations of how that’s not the point or they’ve been helped and you need to contact them face to face or anything for that. But the help they’ve received were all just normal achievements through trying themselves, nothing sounded “magical” or anything a powerful demon would help with. Things that people who believe in nothing also achieve.

And then there are people here and all over the internet asking for money to make a pact or help you through demons. so many problems with that.
If you go buy something at store you see the item, there’s a guarantee you get it and most have a return policy. Ordering online even has policies and guarantees. With that said, some guy shows you pictures, writes a few paragraphs and says “trust me” and if it doesn’t work then something was wrong on the payer’s end.
Sure, lets say this is more about faith than products but I’ve never seen a religion to be like I’ll help you get closer to this demon or God but pay up.
So only way to look at it is like taking classes with people (which even that, I mean 95% of them say you don’t need to do anything just believe and pay) but I did my research thoroughly, followed instructions and even more but I had zero progress.

So I’m Seriously asking, does anyone have any proof or anything? because so far I’m really starting to believe Demons have no power over humans. I mean people who have sex with Lucifer or are extremely close/friendly with Belial I’m sure you can take the time to ask them something to prove to me and everyone on this site it’s real because seriously, It’s all starting to sound like fictional tales…

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Nice, finally a good, detailed post of tiredness and despair.

Let me give your answer.Everything you will read here are stories,real or not,those stories will not help you in any way. What you experienced will.

So far I see you havent been succeed though,well I can only say good luck.

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How long have you been trying this cause I can assure this is all very real, I went from a homeless traumatised teenage addict, high school dropout. Now I’m making over £3.000 a month, I teach magick to clients for a living, as well as my readings, consultations and rituals for hire.

I have crushed my enemies, manifested large sums of wealth in my life, manipulated events in my life to the exact point I want it to be in.
I have a beautiful daughter, now I’m a co-author and soon to be full time author with the release of my new full book.

This isn’t including the sex and love I’ve materialised In my life, plus the amazing results other achieve due to me performing magick for them.

Also the whole spirits and humans sex, that’s real trust me I’ve done it, the spirits haven’t got to show us anything or do anything until you reach a certain point in your development where they can do these things.

Cause they are indeed powerful and ancient entities but the magician needs to be the gateway to bring into this world. We act as their extension for them to operate within this plane of flesh and substance.

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If c.kendall can’t convince you than no one can. He is the real deal he knows what he is talking about.

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I did.

And besides, does christianity/islam/etc. Have a definite proof? No. Their “proofs” aren’t better than ours. Ofc you don’t have to believe everything that is posted here, I can understand your doubt,and it’s good not to believe everything right away.

But let me ask you something. When you tried to contact demons, did you actually believe that they will appear? Or did your subconscious mind tell you it’s all fake anyway? Cause that kind of doubt can block your senses and you will experience nothing. A demon king doesn’t owe you anything, he doesn’t have to show up to prove he’s real.

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My dude. You’re expecting too much of them, you’re asking for a lightning bolt to strike you from the sky, it’s not going to happen. What you need is goals. Maybe you aren’t cut out for this life. Maybe you are! I don’t know. But, what I do know, this is real but, you don’t get everything you expect. What I’ve learned with religion, you expect some all inspiring thing to happen, and it just so happens to happen but, everything falls apart afterward, you ask for something and it never happens. If it has proof that it actually can theoretically happen, then theres a chance right? Who’s to say its God or Belial or Beelzebub? Hell, maybe it’s the main character from MLP helping you. All it depends on is belief, practice, and due diligence. If you ask for a million dollars but you never get off your ass, will it happen? Maybe, your grandma could die and leave you 5 million dollars instead. Why does that have to be God? Why does that have to be Belial? Perhaps it’s you desiring something so much it comes to fruition? You never know what something means until you truly experience it in essence. You can’t call us all fake, besides, we’re not calling you fake, are we?

It all takes time, work, and understanding. Achieve these and maybe you can actually get something out of all this.

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first off I gotta say, I really admire the fact that you pulled through and became successful after struggling. Respect.

Now, I could get into a long discussion of “if this was real wouldn’t everyone do it and the government would try to tap into it” etc.
I’m not exactly saying why hasn’t any demon manifested in front of me or interacted with me but after 6 months of constant meditation to reach certain stages/levels and summoning attempts and literally nothing. Some people here have gotten nowhere after 1-2 years and are still trying and some people claim they’ve gotten there in 90 days, full summoning. On this site. I Begged for their help, respectfully. Many offerings and nothing. Where was their help? Then I cussed out these powerful demons, where’s their wrath?
I mean, from an outside point of view, wouldn’t someone consider the possibility that you’ve tapped into a good market and with hard work you’ve made a name for yourself and now you make bank? I’m not saying you’re a fraud at all, like I said I believe in all the higher powers and the supernatural but maybe you have a gift? I don’t know but personally I’ve tried and attempted many different things and I haven’t gotten anything.

And I mean if someone is so close to the Demons (especially the over the internet businesses) I always ask can I have some proof? I mean if you’re asking +$1000 then tell me something about me. Don’t these powerful demons have these abilities?

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Are you begging money from him ?

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Why do you expect demons to respond like “God” or “Jehovah”? Just because you disrespect them, they’re going to kill you? No. They teach you lessons just like “God”.

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I’m not saying that other religions have proof either really but through personal that i explained^ but yeah even Islam/jewism/Christianity etc have no hard proof either (except their old books which some people say Qoran has no inconsistencies as a proof but I haven’t researched it that much)

But yes like I said I believe in God, Demons, angels, The Devil all that. And first few time I was terrified that a demon would show up and hurt me cause maybe it’d be a the wrong demon. After a while I started thinking they’d show up and it would be this respectful interactions. After 4-5 months I believed the’d show up, and after that I though they wouldn’t so I thought maybe if I disrespect them and still believed I’d see some wrath or anything but nada

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No the people that have websites saying if you pay $1000 or something I can help you through demons

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As far as I know, you have to put in your effort, spirit will make sure of it.Thats how some people does it.

Well lets say you have %10 chance of making it, you do magick and probabilty will change, thats what I believe.

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Has anyone ever explained to you that the doorway to being able to see and hear things that are not physical is your imagination. Seeing them is the same as day dreaming. Where you see or hear things in your imagination/day dream is where you see hear these things.

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hey, English is not my first language so I’m not as articulate as the rest. I’m just curious and not suggesting anything at all, but have you done any chakra clearing/unblocking and astral projecting?

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They get disrespected everyday.

Something is holding you back from either getting results, or seeing results. What is your goal? And what are you doing to achieve it?
My opinion is, if you have a certain goal, do what you can do to achieve it. And the rest, the stuff you cannot influence yourself (like luck, the behaviors of other people, not having an accident, etc) that’s what I ask a demon for.

As I said before, a demon doesn’t have to prove his existence. Why would he care?

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I’m not calling anyone fake, I’m calling demon summoning fake based on my experience.

It’s like this: If you and your friends are hanging out then half of them go holy shit do you see that man right in front of us, and you don’t you wouldn’t think you’re blind you’d think your friends are messing with you. That’s me.

I don’t expect too much and LOL no I don’t expect a lightning to hit me tomorrow. So many people here tho say they’ve done something like that and woke up with scratches or lost their jobs the next week. I don’t think asking for a sign is too much is it? God/Allah can’t show themselves to show a sign but apparently these powerful demons are said to be able to…

I ordered books on amazon in 6 months I read at least 10 books, even EA, watched videos read posts and did research about the past, trust me I tried working and understanding. Yes the argument can be made that it’s never enough but 6 months and no proof anyone would get fed up…

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You said you do believe in angels and demons, so why do you need a definite proof? Doesn’t go into my head.

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Yes multiple people. That you need to do this special meditations to fall into that place where it’s half dream half reality. Some said they reach to you through dreams even. I did try all of that. And tbh those meditations did me good and relaxed me and it was an experience but again nothing.

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Sounds like you are lusting for results wich would put more of that energy into your rituals than your actual desire. You have a stronger emotional tie to getting results than what you are asking for.

Its like making several pots of coffee every day and never drinking any then saying this caffeine is bullshit i make all this coffee and am still tired.

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I’ve tried astral projection through meditation during the day, during summoning, and before sleep.

And your English sounds perfect, don’t worry! I’m an immigrant too…