I’ve never heard a single entities and succeed an evocation,
Never had any significant results from a love spell,an invocation ect…
To be truth I’ve never senses anything,not even a presence, while I’m sensitive to Ouija board and atmosphere switching from Ouija session.
I’ve never made a correct astral projection, just 3-4 lucid dreams in my life from WBTB methods
Mantra and psalmody never worked for me,now each time i see post who invite me to say “alerbcu eidfebe rekas fdji” to invoke angels/demons etc… in my house, i know this shit isn’t for me.
I’ve never seen aura,just like everyone I’ve sometimes déjà-vu feelings or feeling of foreboding, nothing more.
I’ve never had informations from oracle or pendulum,feeling like I’m only dealing with myself.
I’m not stupid,and I know that this system is definitely not for me, as I given a lot of my times, devotion and attention, searching for thousand of hours,on blog,forum,book, practicing things, jumping paradigms.
I’ve never thought I would say that, but magick, at least this kind of magick never worked for me,maybe it’s a good thing,maybe not; you could say that is because of beliefs and limitations,mediation ect… trust me, it is something more complex.
From all systems and paradigms, only subliminal and “loa” seems to have some effects, that’s weird I know.
That’s my result and my life,if you are in the same case and you can relate, it’s good
For those who had sex with an horny succubus last night,made a pact yesterday and just receive 1k dollars and met 2 sexy girls this morning ,those who just understood that they are an incarnated god and that they will change the world, good for you.
Me I’m dealing with the same life and the same shit,just like billions of people
Well, it is what it is, you gave it your best. What interests me is this:
For the benefit of other people in your situation, do you have anything to share, like what kinds of authors or teachers you found most on-point, whose material worked for you?
Personally, I take a lot of peoples work combined it with wording to make it more powerful, and add some of my own, even crystals around to charge it, herbs, a doll filled with more for my intent to get as much energy out there as I can for any spell.
The best system is your own. Make it up to start with. See what happens. Have confidence in yourself.
Call on whatever you feel is neccesary. Shed all doubt and fear. Be you. Then it will all flow.
Imagination is the gateway.
Like Lady_Eva said
Go with that. Papa legba, who opens the cross roads. Open the imagination pretend your having a conversation. You may look back on that moment and realise it was all real
Shadow hit the nail on the head imo
When starting, its nice and easy to just pick a paradigm but eventually you have to make your own based on your own beliefs. Trying too hard to stick to someone elses ‘doctrine’ like paradigms is one of the magical barriers that throws people into cognitive dissonance.
Since our minds interpret things differently, people interpret different meanings of the same message. Thus, its important to emphasize your own conclusions while considering the conclusions of others, but not necessarily integrating the conclusions of others, you have to test those conclusions for yourself first.
I will make a post about my own paradigm and subliminals, even thought it seems like there isn’t a lot of people in my situation on this forum
They may not be posting, but you can bet they’re reading the forum.
What if my paradigm is that most of magick system doesn’t work? The only possibility for me is the power of mind and subconscious, way less paths than classical magick approach
That is the usual persons paradigm.
That is why if magic doesnt come naturally at first, you must train your mind to allow it to happen. For some this comes natural from past life experience, their mind already somewhat remembers it is possible.
If you do not have success then perhaps you are failing at immersion.
You must load your brain like a magazine and fill it with all the info you need regarding the lore, history, and dogmas surrounding the entity you want to work with.
This is one of the reasons we use symbols like swords and robes. It helps immerse the brain to bring down a part of the mind called the censor.
The censor is where your issue is. Your mind does not accept it, thus is does not allow magic to manifest.
Agree with @SeekerofK
Magic is mind, wether you focus focus focus, manifest, manifest , manifest or Ask for help, then forget, forget, forget.
Law of attracttion or trust in what you have asked for. I used to be a lazy magician. Could not focus, and could not forget.
One day i poured all my thoughts and emotions into creating and manifesting a partner. Very detailed and i believed and new i was going to get what i asked for. Caused i believed it i felt it. I poured as much energy as i could into it.
Then i forgot about it. I got exactley what i asked for.
These days i train the mind in every moment. I dont fantasize about things that cannot be. They get burned instantly by the black flame. All doubts burned, all fears burned. I may ask a entity on a progress update within a weeks time. Otherwise trust and forget. Same as casting.
I agree that symbolism empowers magick. My guides will use it all the time instead of talking to train my mind. Thoughts can be a nuances most times, not always though.
Maybe you have blocked yourself, or there’s someone near blocking you from achieving results. I myself lived most of my life under a rational, logical way of thinking. During that time, I never experienced anything unnatural, and because of my influence, I even blocked my wife from experiencing things that used to be natural to her, like seeing shadow beings, having premonitions, and such. In recent times, I decided to change my mind set, and give occultism a go. Why? I´m not sure, but I can tell you that I opened my mind and weird things started to happen inside me AND outside me, in the physical world. Coincidentally, now my wife is getting her visions back again, and experiencing pyshical phenomena around. Guess the mind is really the most powerful thing we have.
What I’m trying to say here, is that in order to attract things, you need to open your mind to that, and go with the flow. If you have doubts or let your frustrations grow, a blockage is in order.
I think the problem is that you’re trying to start the race at the end line. Start from the beginning… Work on your senses, understand how magick operates. The effect of your thoughts, emotions, beliefs etc
A good start would be the Law of attraction techniques and reading about the subconscious mind. I know the reputation of the LOA in occultism and it’s mostly deserved. But it’s still a good start regardless of how its explained to the masses.
When you try a simple technique from the LOA and test the process for meaningless things. You’ll have faith and keep going. I remember a result of one my tests, I was haunted by yellow ducks for 2 weeks 24/7. Horror movie lol As crazy as it sounds, it’s really important. It gets your mind in the right place.
Read the kybalion, understand what those principles mean. Read and study the subconscious mind. Test some LOA techniques until you get results. Then take it one step at a time from there. Don’t start by evocations and trying to sense spirits or casting spells. For many people, that may cause too much pressure and unreasonable expectations.
Maybe you can find a human mentor / teacher to guide you. Such folks might be found at a local magick club or organization. You could ask for a magick / occult tutor here or on reddit. You may find strength in numbers.
You probably don’t have a system or any occult training.
Get trained first. Train your mind to focus, and train yourself in magickal practice.
A good, simple psychological trance training tool is Autogenic Training. I’ve touted it for years on this site. You can get the basic protocol here. Do this daily for 3 months. By the end of that time, you’ll be proficient in putting yourself into magickal trances.
Another psychic trainer i recommend to anyone who’ll listen is Brother Moloch’s Basics Of Metaphysical Empowerment.
Either of the above can help you develop your mindset for magickal trances. They don’t teach magick per se, rather they give your mindset a foundation upon which magickal practice can be built. Very important to do this.
Then, find and follow A magickal system. Meaning pick ONE and i repeat ONE training system that works. Follow it until it gains you results.
Examples of a system you can train in include:
- EA Koetting’s Magic Mastery series: Mastering Evocation, Divination, Soul Travel, and/or Kundalini
- EA’s original OAA course
- Paul Huson’s Mastering Witchcraft (some of the best mages i know swear by this book)
- Jason Miller’s Strategic Sorcery
- Don Kraig’s Modern Magic (MANY great mages cut their teeth on this book)
- Jake Stratton-Kent’s Trve Grimoire
- Geoff Gray-Cobb’s New Avatar Power system
- Cat Yronwode’s Hoodoo Correspondence course
- Martin Coleman’s Communing With The Spirits necromancy training
- Alan Chapman’s chaos magick primer
- or, Adam Blackthorne’s
- Andrieh Vitimus’ Ovayki Current
- Dr. Lazarus Corbeaux’ Santissima Muerte guide
- Lesson 11 (Autogenic Meditation), from Kai Kermani’s Autogenic Training guide
- The Farsight Institute’s FREE Remote Viewing training
- Sorceress Cagliastro’s Wednesday Night Core Class training
- Quareia’s FREE ritual magick training
- Talmadge Harper’s Art Of Manifesting course
- Lon Milo DuQuette’s Enochian Vision Magick
- Athena Wallander has many useful training courses here.
- Jason Louv’s Magick.Me chaos magick training
- and many more - look around you find them everywhere.
It’s actually kind of embarrassing how many great magickal systems are above. If you can’t get any of these working for you, magick is probably not for you.
I repeat. Pick ONE of these and apply yourself to it. Some of the above systems cost a lot, others a bit, still others ar free info that cost you nothing but time. Either way, pick ONE. Learn it inside-out and practice often. Keep at it until you get results.
At the very least, i recommend you do the experiments in Pam Grout’s books E-Squared and E-Cubed. They’ll prove to you that magick is real, as they’re based on the same psychological principles as William Burroughs’ magickal systems were - the same principles practiced by TOPY.
Don’t give up on this too quick. Start building your psychic skills, then find one system and apply yourself to it. Give it a year and see what comes of that before you pass judgment on the whole shebang. You might just surprise yourself.
I have this feeling too, always… is frustrating…
Thanks for this. I was wondering about how to get going – ESPECIALLY with meditation. You are a tremendous resource!
Wow that’s a quality post.
To be honest I really hope that’s servitor and mind power magick will be my path.Because if I want to elevate my spiritual and magical potential,I prefer that all my success and discover are brought by myself and my work,not by another help of entities,at least as less as possible.
But it’s seems like as some of you said we need mentor and teacher, just like it’s impossible to progress in math (for most of us) alone, but I really hope that we could be our own teacher,our own source of knowledge
Thoughtform magick (sigils, servitors, and tulpas) are great for reality-hacking.
Two great reality-hacking/mindpower grimoires are E-Squared and E-Cubed by Pam Grout. They require no prior training or experience, only a willingness to do a few simple exercises.
Use hypnosis training to train and reprogram your subconscious. You can do many things with just your mind and the right training. Stephanie Conkle has a method for speaking with your subconscious and higher self. Also, the late Dr. Laura DiGiorgio had drills for training your subconscious mind to use hypnotic phenomena in reality-hacking/mindpower magick.
Sad thing is many of these courses arent free