Yes, but they are not a cure all. If they were, the Black Death wouldn’t have claimed the lives of thousands of witches and magicians, or the Spanish flu of 1918, and magicians like Donald Michael Craig wouldn’t die of cancer or complications from surgery.
Common sense will trump fantasy every day of the week, and magick does not make one physically immortal or indestructible, contrary to the mad ramblings of the LARPers among us. Washing your hands and wearing a mask when out among the masses will do more to keep you safe and healthy than any spell or ritual.
The human race has survived pandemics before, and we’ll survive this one. As already stated, it is merely a cycle, and we will adapt like we always do. Adaptation is what humans excel at. Really, the biggest problem we face is our our own complacency. This is the first global pandemic in a hundred years, and because of that, no one was really prepared for its effect on modern life. We are so used to things being a certain way that most of us struggle with any major changes (in fact, some big magical operations can cause chaos in your life similar to what the pandemic is causing, because chaos is required for change. Every part of your life must die if you are to be born again).
First you will have to define what you mean by “change your life.” Magick can help you be successful in your endeavours, bring love into your life, make you influential and charming, increase material possessions, make you more creative, heal ailments, and change how you perceive yourself and your place in the universe.
However, it won’t do any of that without cost or effort on your part. Magick is not a “leave your brain at home and live in a fantasy delusion” escape from the world, though there are plenty who use it as such, claiming to possess mighty powers while their physical life is a mess. As anyone who has practiced for a significant amount of time will tell you, there is plenty of pain along the magical path because the forces we call upon make us look at ourselves without our blinders on, and usually what we see ain’t pretty.
My financial didn’t changed at all, and I am doing things as I always did, that also didn’t changed. Do we all have to get nuts because some hate their own house and want to escape from it?
Honestly, the main reason I have not been tempted to address the coronavirus on a global scale is because I do not feel comfortable actively messing the dna of future generations to that scale. Yes, it sounds cruel and insensitive. I do feel for those suffering from the disease and those who were/are stuck at home. But at the end of the day, it is just my view. Pestilence is a cycle, and it has hit our species for ages and likely will for ages to come. The social systems we have created just do not hold a candle to the deeper cycles of the species.
whether or not the shut downs are a bad thing really depend on how you view them and use your time. I took the opportunity to practice skills that have been nearly lost in our history on top of magic, which I had little time for before the shut down. I am back to work now but the time spent at home helped developed habits that are beneficial and took the time to teach them to others.
Okay I’ll say a few things. Firstly about covid…Im not sure where you live roxsta, but where I’m at, we’ve pretty much conquered the virus. I was just at a party last week lol. It’s only in America where you guys still can’t seem to get your shit together, no offense. So to answer your question, a lot of us aren’t really suffering from the lockdowns anymore. Secondly, it’s much harder to affect global events than it is to affect your own life. The life of a LHP practitioner tends to be a solitary one, so the kind of global co ordination that you’re looking for just isn’t super realistic. Now that I think about it…i don’t think there has ever been a moment in my lifetime where black magicians have come together in the way you’re looking for, in order to combat global issues. It’s just not something we do often. This is a highly individualistic way of life. In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me to find out that many occultists are rather amused by all this. Within occultism, there are so many different groups, a lot of which don’t even see eye to eye. The amount of people out there who practice Magick as we do here isn’t even 1% of the population. Perhaps not even 0.1%.
Now onto your skepticism. I feel like your question concerning the ability of Magick to affect real change in your life should already be answered, if you did indeed read my success stories thread. I made a point of not including any stories in there that have to do with self help and the like, as I don’t view those successes as particularly extraordinary. So I guess my question back to you is, why were the ~200 stories in that thread not sufficient enough for you? It’s incredibly difficult to prove Magick to people over the internet, so I hope you weren’t expecting one of us to literally pop out of your computer screen and shake your body until you believed, because that’s not quite how Magick works. There’s many examples of magicians in that thread, using Magick precisely when shit hit the fan to save themselves from the brink. Since you seem to have an interest in lust/love Magick, allow me to pull one story out of that thread and you tell me if that was the sort of thing you are looking for.
Popping on to give my perspective on this, as it’s exactly the sort of question I would’ve had when I started out.
I’m assuming the OP is asking why more black magicians are not actively trying to work together to stop Covid, from the point of view of it being an apparently obviously entirely negative phenomenon and restrictive to each of us individually, as opposed to some moral responsibilty for the ‘greater good’.
If that’s the case, I’ll answer it in a slightly roundabout way, by addressing another common… ‘accusation’ directed at the magical community, that being: ‘if magick really works and is as powerful as it’s made out to be, then why aren’t all magicians millionaires by now?’ I KNOW this will sound like a cop-out or an excuse—but my answer to that would be: because believe it or not, not all people actually WANT that. When you start taking spirituality seriously, whole new worlds of experience open up for you. It is genuinely the case that for a lot of people in the community, having insane amounts of money is not really necessarily an end goal. I have made some MIRACULOUS things happen through magick and through following this path, and I know, literally I KNOW, that it works–but I’m not rich, because quite frankly, I don’t care to be If that were my goal, I know I could probably manifest it, but honestly, I have more important priorities.
Conversely, there can be quite a high level of adversity involved with this way of life (for example: it is quite common to experience literal existential breakdowns due to the expansion of consciousness; spirits are known to set up ‘tests’ for us which can be pretty damn scary/stressful; invoking/evoking certain energies again leads to tangible manifestations within our lives, and so on). Often by dealing with this sort of thing we learn to better overcome obstacles and it leads to personal growth on a level that most people aren’t really used to. So in the same way, what ‘normal’ people might consider to be an obviously highly distressing situation, might for people like us (depending on personal circumstances) not necessarily be THAT much of a big deal. And from reading the other replies on here, and also from my own experience, this does seem to be the case for a lot of us.
I’m not saying this is anything to celebrate, or making light of anyone’s experiences who may be truly suffering due to the virus, just that for me personally I wasn’t massively affected by it (I mean I was to an extent), but I’ve had some positives come out of this whole thing too. In my little microcosm, my reality if you will, Covid is at this point pretty much a non-issue (or at least, only a minor sort of background worry). I am, however, aware that this is not necessarily the case for other people; I am not oblivious to the fact that this IS a big problem for many, many people—again, it is a matter of perspective. I understand that the concept of multiple realities coexisting seems a bit vague and illogical—but Truth IS paradoxical, and once it starts clicking for you and this concept is experienced through personal gnosis- everything starts to make a little bit more sense
Honestly mate I’m not. I’m from Kolkata,India and we have a lot of things up and running. Buses and cabs are running and businesses haven’t been having much difference. For love of christ I’m loving the new safety precautions and since I’m a High School Grad about to enter college I’m using this time to be productive at home. I learnt Latin and starting doing a few freelance. In fact I’m happier this summer than I have ever been in my life.
Actually many of us have fed on the coronavirus energies and have created more defenses to use this free power for our purposes. I have been doing a lot of rituals. Once per day in fact and have been using this time to being more productive.
Actually while I have casted protection around my family I dont really care about others. This is time to cleanse our world again. The global warming crisis significantly improved and people became more polarized which helped in this case. Political situations are turning and paving way for individualism which will be needed.
All in all use this to be productive and become a god. Adios!
There are things far more restrictive of will than a virus, and a lot of them are man-made, and I think the virus is serving a purpose whether intended or not, though tragically there are casualties. I have my own goals and designs magically that i am interested in doing work to accomplish, coronavirus is not apart of them directly, and i dont consider my own magical practice one that could or should attempt to interfere with natural catastrophes that benefit the earth.
Also, for perspective, my life is NOT in limbo. I get to spend all day working at home and tending my garden of sacred plants, I get to spend my off day learning a new language, learning new (and old ways) of making plant extracts, i get to tend to my shrines, i get to read my books readily, expand to studying ethnomycology as well as the plants, and practice magic. Im left alone to do that - my occupation was forced remote because of the pandemic, and my ability to feed my soul with the things -I- want to do has been vastly improved. From an entirely selfish perspective, why would i contribute to disrupting what has been provided to me as a result?
I also like what was previously mentioned by Keteriya: . “A lot of us are introverts or have tight social circles anyways.“
If magick is really that effective, why aren’t ‘Sorcerers’ battling this Coronavirus yet? And if they ARE pathworking against this virus, why has nothing happened?
First things first; never underestimate the power of a large group of stupid, ignorant and uneducated sheeple. I know, as I continue to use it in My Work.
Second, if you believe that the Lock Down has anything to do with a virus, then you need help of a kind I’m unqualified to offer.
Third, the economic destruction of the Lock Down has really hastened My Work.
Fourth, I know how to cure Covid-19 and I have posted. Alternatively, even if – like me – you’re allergic to Vit.C, when you suffer colds and influenza, for some odd reason, you’re not allergic and can take significant amounts – regularly.
What agenda is being served? Who benefits?
These people are very much modern Magicians and their kind of work relies completely on propaganda – constant and unrelenting – so that most have no inclination or time for anything else but the illusion at hand.
And I mention this, because LHP practitioners apparently detest the concept of having to do anything against their conscious control/will
I got censored and accused of “edgelording” (had to look it up) and that was on the premium lhp website – here. I was delighted!
Having read all the replies to this thread, I discern two threads of responses. The first thread includes those that ask me some questions, some of them also misunderstanding my intent a little (albeit unintentionally – all is cool )
The second thread of responses actually answers the questions I asked, gives me insights I hadn’t even thought about before – and clarifies a lot of my skepticism.
In replying to the first thread of responses I described above…
Fantastic actually - Hanuman is excellent for driving out unwanted psychic forces - for physical training (callisthenics, martial arts, wrestling, bodybuilding) - for herbal work as well. Also, Hanuman is the chief of Ram’s legion of warriors - so you can be assured of Hanuman’s sheer potency. But since discussing that particular spirit would derail the OP, let us discuss Hanuman on a different thread
Now,
To those I have quoted above, - I feel my ‘intent’ has been a tad bit misunderstood. I should have phrased myself a lil more succinctly. It’s not that my life has been terribly affected by the Coronavirus so far (fortunately so) - We don’t have an absolute lockdown here - and neither have my loved ones been affected yet.Still, I consider it a violation of my freedom to be forced to wear a mask to venture out. Look at what @Akasha wrote
^for this perfectly sums it up.
To @Anassa@Keteriya and @A_Pariah specifically :
I do not consider myself a saviour of this world - nor do I have inclinations to do so (however changing global affairs to suit my will might appeal to me) I am perfectly alright staying at home going about my business, for there’s a lot of work - many, many books to read, a lot of guitar practising to do etc
but the thing that I found disagreeable was that as magicians, despite the lockdowns having been lifted from many parts of the world we HAVE to (a necessary obstacle on personal freedom) wear a mask while going out (mind you, this is not conscious will on our parts to wear the mask, but something we are forced to do - if we want to save our lives) - as a musician, I see the entire business of LIVE music, rock concerts, happy congregation of people stagnate before my eyes - that too, indefinitely. It is all well and dandy if you CONSCIOUSLY CHOOSE to remain indoors - but for those that would love to be performing onstage before a sea of thousands of rock-music fans, this is hardly an excellent situation
Now, onto the juicier stuff - some of your replies here have indeed given me new insights - for which I am thankful.
Interesting insight right there. This means that the potency of Magick itself is not to be questioned - but it all depends on the personal style of every magician
Another interesting insight - that makes me stop questioning the potency of magick itself, but also consider how important the individual Will, and personal decision of each Sorcerer is.Thanks for this man
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Further affirmation of the tremendous role of the individual will and potency of each magician affecting the “working” of magick than the magick itself. “Do not discount the tool-master, for s/he works the tools” - Thanks @Verdo !
Fucking exactly! Now you’re the only one in this thread that got precisely what I meant.
I finished reading Evoking Eternity today. The book I had quoted from (out of skepticism) about a global union of Black Magicians to counter the Coronavirus itself offered a quote that complements it - Ironical innit?
“After working with a group of Conjurers, the previously solitary Magician will find power and peace that had hitherto been undiscovered.It is always evidenced, however, that even though a group may work the miraculous together, and even though they may walk the earth as the unbreakable horsemen of the apocalypse, that this path is a personal one . It is an intimate union between the dying and the Eternal, between man and God… and with such a treasure, s/he continues down that path comfortably alone .” – Evoking Eternity (Koetting)
The final strand of thought I shall be taking from this thread is – that it’s not in the impotency of the Magick itself – but the raw capability – and (most important of all) the Conscious Will of the Magician that affects the potency of the Magick.
This is inspiring for me – for now I see that Magick is potent (which is what I wanted to confirm), and it is upto me to “Do What Thou Wilt” with it. Certainly removes my doubts in the magick itself, and encourages me to unabashedly put my Will into action.
I’ll have an open mind and read up on any further replies from any other members should they choose to chime in but – The purpose for which I’d created this thread has been served, and I stand clarified on a lot of things I wasn’t before.
This was my first post on BALG and I thank you all that has contributed here.
Thank you for giving me the encouragement to learn and grow, into the potent Darkness from which all Light stems.
As a fellow music-industry-related person I give you the advice to set up merchandise if you make a living out of your art. Even without the plague going on musical artistry on stage doesn’t pay good.
If you’re missing out on the performance aspect only: behold the power of the internet.
“Quarantine concerts” have been a thing and the fact that people have to stay at home pushed some purchases for me recently because they have time to discover new stuff that they like to listen to. You will be able to gather an audience, even if its not right now on stage. Audience is audience, no matter where.
Make collaborations with other musicians. Write and set up a new album. Use the slow speed of things to gather creativity and to try out new things.
Skepticism is good. Lots if not most occultists turn to magic in desperation and get fleeced.
Magic can effect anything possible; a good rule of thumb is if it can be dreamed, it can be done. The catch is, magic costs. And so the costs you’re willing and able to accept very quickly become the base variable at play.
This server leans very strongly LHP/black. More arcanely put it is a community more thaumaturgically than theurgetically concerned.
Thaumaturgic praxis/black magic isn’t usually very well made for healing sickness and in fact tends to create it. Doing black magic can make people sick, altar spaces can start spontaneously smelling like literal death and attracting bugs from seemingly nowhere especially if you never banish. Evil is sickness, sickness culls, culling affords new life a better place to grow.
Lots if magicians are trying to fight and ease and do their part in the pandemic. Plenty of us are just chilling and watching the numbers fly by trying to figure the result, too.
Your response is quite a cogent insight. I understand the “thaumaturgic” (practical) side of things is important - however, I believe it is always a good idea to immerse ourselves in the theurgetical (theoretical) side of things for a necessary “immersion” before we tread head-first into the unknown dark waters of practical black magick.
At the end of the day, we alone are responsible and will be accountable for the forces we individually unleash on the material plane.
Correct me if I’m wrong, But I know of some Goetic daemons specifically involved with healing (Marbas the Great President of Hell coming to mind almost instantly)
As for the distinction between angels and demons, I’ve seen experienced mages put forth the viewpoint - that even Angels can perform baneful magick, and Daemons being worked with for protection and healing.
As the saying goes : “Even Angels can kill - and Demons can heal”
To me personally, the Left Hand Path means a path - where we as individuals work as sovereign beings to bring Magick and its effects onto the Material plane… bowing to the divinity within us first,
for if we cannot bow before our own selves in respect and awe, how could we expect the Spirits to bow to us in faithful reverence?
Angels and demons are in many respects very similar critters; They were originally the same species. Their powers and temperaments are consequently in many respects very like.
Theurgetic as theoretical is a bad way to conceive of the difference. Goetia style summoning for example is technically theurgetic as the demons are bindingly evoked and compelled to the magician’s will by the power of their frustrating angel, although arguably the end result is often if not usually what a crusty old bastard like Paracelsus would consider thaumaturgic. @RoxSta
Frustrating angel is the term of art in Goetia grimoires whether or not you Winterfield or anyone else think everyone’s chummy pals (and funny note that isn’t what Winterfield wrote on that point either, that’s what you read into it).
Winterfield here is concurring with my point that Goetia ain’t designed to work without angels, which again in praxis qualified it historically as theurgetic. His speculations on why may differ, there I don’t care.
Hey man, you pinged me so I’ll drop my thoughts on this one. It’s layered.
First and foremost… The actual pathogen was more or less put to death down on it’s knees. 99.98% survival rate? You have to be tested to know if you even have it? It’s in the realm of everything else people love to screech about on social media: Debatable at the very best. Common sense says it’s been handled.
Even if you’re one to drink the koolaid and pretend it’s anything that should be remotely feared you can kill it with a trip to the grocery store.
Zinc Ionophores kill it. You can replecate the mechanism of HCQ with soccer mom vitamins that do the same thing: Shuttle zinc into the cells and stop replication.
Quercetin (take with berberine)
Berberine (take with quercetin)
Zinc
EGCG (green tea polyphenols;) (optional)
(Biochemical advice, not medical advice)
I’m sensing you’re more concerned with the impact of the perception of the problem than the substance of it.
This is where its interesting. One can indeed shape the world in big ways though it takes an extrordinairy amount of power to do it. Magick works through the easiest pathways it can.
The strongest reality also wins and the collective consciousness is indeed a thing. If it’s you pushing against the world you’re going to have to find a different way to redirect the forces at play and render it into something else. Either by throwing magick at weak points or areas that are just out of reach.
For instance, it’s easier to cause something to go viral than it is to do a spell for “stop covid and open the world up.” Doing a bit of digging you can find there are several doctors who have successfully treated hundreds of covid patients using malaria drugs. Making this become household knowledge would have a much greater effect than hitting the problem head on when it has momentum. Then expose or cause controversy with the people responsible for stupid orders and lockdowns. Instill fear in them, cause them to be plagued by mind spirits who won’t let up until they fold. That’s how to do it.
Try to look at it from an energetic standpoint. Situations have momentum. Some magick can reverse entire scenarios if they’re personal ones.
This is how nearly all magick operates, your reality is a consensus one with the people you share it with. The strongest reality wins. When everyone is focused on one thing you can make changes between the lines and shift an entire situation if you know what to change.
You can manifest things with magick, you can’t manhandle them with it. It all happens in the context of what could be written off by a skeptic as a coincidence. Keep that in mind
If that were my goal, I know I could probably manifest it, but honestly, I have more important priorities.
