its interesting to me that threads like these always garner so much attention.
Anyhow OP, id take a read through the thread i’ll link to below…in particular the stories under baneful magick. Its very easy to write things off as larping or placebo’s in the beginning…but when you start doing magick to do shit like kill a person, and the dude dies a couple months later? Well, that sort of thing is way way harder to brush aside