Is Jesus an aspect of Horus? There are lots of documentation and videos online regarding that topic. For some reason, I’m inclined to say yes… Just a feeling I have. I understand one entity can have several aspects and be known under different names but it’s still the same entity.
I’d advise people to directly pray to Horus, the original source, rather than pray to Jesus, an aspect tainted by two millenia of bigotry, ignorance, prejudice, “Holy” wars, executions, homophobia etc.
No. What most people don’t understand is that Jesus was originally just a prophet. Like all the other Jewish prophets, he was chosen to bring the Jews back to their religion. This savoir stuff didn’t come till a century after his death.
So no. He was just a prophet, like Isiah or Moses.
Yeah. But Jesus was then deified. In Christianity, Jesus is part of the Holy Trinity (The Father/The Son/The Holy Spirit). He is now seen as God. Some Christians believe Jesus was God before he was even born on this Earth.
Jesus as a deity might be an aspect of Horus and/or some other Gods such as Odin and Mithra, just like the Virgin Mary as the “Mother of God”, the “Queen of Heaven”, might be an aspect of Astaroth/Ishtar/Inanna, even though Mary was only known to be a human being back then.
What I’m saying is those human people were then deified and possibly linked to other Gods.
I kinda want to chime in on this but it may not even be relavent but what the hell…so aside from the biblical text of the existance of jesus the prophet, what other outside or secular sources does one have to verify his existance? And no, the writings of Josephus have been proven to be false at this time so validation in that aspect is null. I mean, aside from another religious text (like the Quran, etc) is there any other verfification?
From what ive recently read jesus, yeheshua means the supremacy of the spirit over the elements.
Yod he vav he = the 4 elements
Yod he shin vav he = yeheshua (spirit ruling over matter).
Its explained in the thelemic golden dawn website, related to the meaning of the pentagram (stated by eliphas levi if i recall right).
So looks more like a title doesnt it? Even there was historically a yeheshua of nazareth.
This also means any of us can become Yeheshua if we let our spirit rule over the elements (passions)
English Qabalah states that Yeheshua is related to Maitreya and Siddhartha also
[url=http://www.thelemicgoldendawn.net/documents/pentagram.htm]http://www.thelemicgoldendawn.net/documents/pentagram.htm[/url]
[url=http://www.thelemicgoldendawn.net/documents/englishqabalah.htm]http://www.thelemicgoldendawn.net/documents/englishqabalah.htm[/url]
[quote=“YogaApprentice, post:5, topic:1778”]From what ive recently read jesus, yeheshua means the supremacy of the spirit over the elements.
Yod he vav he = the 4 elements
Yod he shin vav he = yeheshua (spirit ruling over matter).
Its explained in the thelemic golden dawn website, related to the meaning of the pentagram (stated by eliphas levi if i recall right).
So looks more like a title doesnt it? Even there was historically a yeheshua of nazareth.
This also means any of us can become Yeheshua if we let our spirit rule over the elements (passions)
English Qabalah states that Yeheshua is related to Maitreya and Siddhartha also
[url=http://www.thelemicgoldendawn.net/documents/pentagram.htm]http://www.thelemicgoldendawn.net/documents/pentagram.htm[/url]
[url=http://www.thelemicgoldendawn.net/documents/englishqabalah.htm]http://www.thelemicgoldendawn.net/documents/englishqabalah.htm[/url][/quote]
So from what you stated (and from the links that you posted) it sounds all well and good. Granted I’m not an expert or an authority on qabalah so all of what you stated sounds reasonable enough to me.
Yet that still doesn’t really come to the terms of the matter whether or not yeheshua of nazareth was a historiacal character in verifiable history with proper documentation that can withstand a reasonable level of scrutiny. I ain’t trying to hate on JC and such, but one does have to realize that there were several if not dozens of individuals within the same time frame AND the same region that were skilled prophets, healers, miracle workers, etc who have been lost to the annals of history except for perhaps a brief mention in some esoteric text or scroll. I mean, why was yeheshua of Nazareth picked over all those others to be the focal point? Is there specific historical documentation that led to yeheshua of Nazareth being immortalized to a level above all others prophets? Again, what you mentioned earlier in regards to yeheshua meaning ‘the supremacy of the spirit over the elements’ makes complete and total sense in regards to the context. But what I’m talking about is the ‘dude’ himself.
[quote=“Enlightener_Illuminator, post:1, topic:1778”]Is Jesus an aspect of Horus? There are lots of documentation and videos online regarding that topic. For some reason, I’m inclined to say yes… Just a feeling I have. I understand one entity can have several aspects and be known under different names but it’s still the same entity.
I’d advise people to directly pray to Horus, the original source, rather than pray to Jesus, an aspect tainted by two millenia of bigotry, ignorance, prejudice, “Holy” wars, executions, homophobia etc.[/quote]
Growing up Catholic/Christian I struggled with this as well. All I can say is, study Astrology and the truth shall set ye’ free.
If you want someone who has done absolutely amazing research on the subject of syncretism & astrotheology check out ‘MrAstrotheology’ (Santos Bonacci) on youtube. I’m also a big fan of Jordan Maxwell & Manly Hall. Jordan’s work’s on the subject are leaked pretty much everywhere now, then in Manly Hall’s Secret Teaching’s you get a greater sense for the syncretism throughout all of the ancient religions up to Christianity and even the Mohammedans. Mostly related to Astrology.
The prophets, or whoever actually wrote the books of all the world’s religions hid the truth in plain sight: Horus/Mithra/Jesus/Krishna/Buddha… come on man wake up, it’s a symbol of the SUN!
Maybe the prophets did walk the earth, I haven’t gone back to see for myself (yet lol!) but the writers of the holy books were definitely inspired occultists, truly the mouthpieces of God, written for those who could UNDERSTAND it at the time of it’s release.
Torah/Tarot/ 22 = 12 constellations (12 disciples, 12 tribes…you getting it yet?) + 10 planets man = It’s all Astrotheology! Not to mention the 12 hours (horus’s) in the day of sunlight, the other 12 of night, when the nemisis ‘Set’ (Satan’) Comes out to run the world until Jesus(Horus) resurrects (rises) at the morning hour.
27 For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
I’m reminded of this verse every-morning around 6:00a.m… Horus is the risen savior, just like Jesus at this time of day.
Hell look at Di’Vinci’s last supper. The 12 disciples(constellations) are divided into groups of 4 with Jesus(Sun) in the middle… Remind you of the seasons of the year perhaps, the cross being the astrological symbol of the earth? Horus, walked on water, Jesus walked on water…what else walks on water? The sunlight maybe? Lest we also not forget the symbol of Jesus is the fish, just like the age of Pisces we’ve been in for the past 2000 years, no? Now are you understanding why Jesus just seemed to stick around for so long?
Where shall we prepare for you master? At the man with the water-pitcher’s house. A.K.A. When Pisces the fish moves into Aquarius, the man with the water pitcher. (Judging by the year…2013…we are preparing now).
Hiding profound truth in plain view is what the bible does. Most weren’t meant to understand it unless they wanted to seek the truth. Unfortunately most wouldn’t know knowledge and wisdom if it smacked them in the face with a 2x4. That’s what I’ve gotten out of all these apparent similarities in the various holy-books anyway…if I’m wrong, I’ll be the first to admit it.
Perhaps they are different entities playing their role, I couldn’t tell you. Maybe humanity just breathes life into stories and makes them real. I couldn’t tell you that either. I just call em like I see em.
My 2¢
he relates to Dionysus, as well as Michael,
and even in some aspects to Lucifer.
This professor has an interesting view on Jesus:
[url=http://blip.tv/raimhotep/did-jesus-really-exist-6129825]http://blip.tv/raimhotep/did-jesus-really-exist-6129825[/url]
Some people believe the stories of one or two men were utilized in order to create the mythos of Jesus.
[quote=“Enlightener_Illuminator, post:9, topic:1778”]This professor has an interesting view on Jesus:
[url=http://blip.tv/raimhotep/did-jesus-really-exist-6129825]http://blip.tv/raimhotep/did-jesus-really-exist-6129825[/url]
Some people believe the stories of one or two men were utilized in order to create the mythos of Jesus.[/quote]
Wow that was interesting.
I’m also going through the work of Ralph Ellis, he confirms that Jesus would have been born of a son of a royal family near Syria in Edessa:
[url=http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-King-Edessa-Ralph-Ellis/dp/1905815662]http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-King-Edessa-Ralph-Ellis/dp/1905815662[/url]
It seems to me they built quite a mythology up around him…
Here’s an interview Ralph Did on this topic if you’re interested, he is an amazing researcher:
[url=https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC7BC7DE34A49CA66]https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC7BC7DE34A49CA66[/url]
I’ve finally wrapped up ‘King Jesus’ and some other work by Ralph Ellis. (It took me a while, I’ m spreading myself between 3 different studies lately).
I am totally blown away! This man finally bridges the gap between the lacuna of information that the ‘scholars’ have put out to date, who say he(Jesus) couldn’t have possibly existed in that time era due to the plethora of forgeries and lack of information.
The reason is simple, Jesus existed under different names in different texts. E.g. the Talmud refers to him as Iza, (Izaz), Josephus writes of him as Jesus of Gamala instead of Jesus of Nazareth. (Gee I wonder why the scholars didn’t put that one together, it’s because they are all much later than 33.A.D. and that would expose the lie).
The people looking in 33.A.D. records aren’t going to find much, because that wasn’t the era of his activity. That person would have been the era of John the Baptist, who was likely crucified after his disparaging comment about the King’s marriage.
The real Jesus-Justus of Gamala(a royal of an Egyptian bloodline), would have pissed off just about everyone in Judao-Syria at more the A.D. 60-70 era. He was fomenting a revolt against the Roman imperials, and at the same time restructuring Judaism to bring it in line with the Egyptian/Gnostic teachings. Essentially bringing the mystery schools out into the open. His sister/wife, Mary Magdaline…the ‘poor prostitute’, uh no, she was the richest royal woman in the Middle East, a real Queen.
Well, obviously the Jews weren’t having his teachings, so he pissed alot of them off, and this ultimately split the Jewish revolts into two factions, the Esseen and the Galileans, and cost them their freedom.
The Esseen had another prominent member, you’ll never guess who it was: Paul/Saul. Yup, guess who Paul’s other REAL name is? Lol, yup it’s Josephus! That little worm was working for the Romans, playing the Jews, playing Jesus, playing all of them! The proof is undeniable, Saul IS Josephus! He was actually Jesus’s arch-rival when you examine it.
This guy Josephus has rewritten history, turned Jesus into a God, incorporated parts of his life into his, etc…etc…etc…preached nonsense in his name. This vile little man single handedly perverted a good thing and set humanity back 2,000 years.
Lol, it would be hilarious if it wasn’t so sad.
Later, it appears that once Vespian & Titus did ‘crucify’ Jesus, but he survived at the beckoning of Josuphus(playing both sides). He was ultimately exiled to England, at the borders of the empire. (Apparently it’s easier to exile a hero war-king than to murder him and piss off alot of people).
It was there he would have had a hand in building the Dewa Fortress in Chester, England. If you remember Jesus was an Egyptian Gnostic royal, so likely trained as an architect/mason/astrologer, etc.
The fortress was designed as a Vesica Piscis, a representation of the constellation of Pisces(the fisher of men!). The Dewi dragon symbolism of the Welsh flag has the same etymological foundations as Dewa, and thus has a very likely connection to the ‘Lion of Judah’. (Since it is said King Jesus would have been of David’s bloodline’).
Note: This is most likely where the Grail & King Author legends come from. (12 apostles, 12 knights of the round table…etc) They writers of the legends just changed 100A.D. to 500A.D. so they wouldn’t get hung by the Romans.
This is fascinating stuff! So here we have a real Noble King of Egyptian/Syrian/Judaic blood, trying to amalgamate and reform the existing ‘religions’ into a Gnostic school of knowledge, and of course he loses, and the victors write the history.
Ellis makes some points that he may have been castrated before his exile, since they would fear a man like this having children. I imagine if he did, this bloodline is being preserved, and perhaps the conspiracy theories of the ‘Heirophant King’ that is to rule the Earth being preserved by secret societies are true…will he be of this bloodline? Perhaps. Hell the Jews, the Christians, even the Mohamadeans are expecting a King of Davids line.
I have alot more theories now as to the true origins of the Templar Knights…much to look into. I suspect at the very least this is why Nero had no problem killing off the Gnostic sets of Christians (There were many different cults with many different teachings) while Rome tried to bring them all together under the tomb of Paul’s ‘Simple Judaism’, a.k.a. Roman Christianity, which had it’s big kick in 315A.D. by Constantine. (It was likely here they finalized the religion into a phaux sun-worship festival…a combination of Mythrism, the Zodiac, Druidism, and other Egyptian & Pagan beliefs).
So, while Caesar lost control of Rome, his second in command, the Pope(The first of whom WAS Saul/Josephus, despite the Catholic records) was grabbing up and washing the minds of the people left & right. Hey, who needs a military empire when you’ve created a world religion to do your bidding? Since the days of Babylon the priest class have always been the real rulers anyway, haven’t they?
The rest…my friends…is history. 2,000 years of Sauline Christian oppression. This is only the BEGINNING of my journey in true biblical study…and I figure it’s going to get even more wild from here.
The truth shall set ye free!
–Gnosis
[quote=“Enlightener_Illuminator, post:1, topic:1778”]Is Jesus an aspect of Horus? There are lots of documentation and videos online regarding that topic. For some reason, I’m inclined to say yes… Just a feeling I have. I understand one entity can have several aspects and be known under different names but it’s still the same entity.
I’d advise people to directly pray to Horus, the original source, rather than pray to Jesus, an aspect tainted by two millenia of bigotry, ignorance, prejudice, “Holy” wars, executions, homophobia etc.[/quote]
No jesus is an aspect of lick my balls. Jesus is a non-existent child-molester from your imagination…
Deathprophet obviously started from the bottom and he is still there.
[quote=“deathprophet215, post:12, topic:1778”][quote=“Enlightener_Illuminator, post:1, topic:1778”]Is Jesus an aspect of Horus? There are lots of documentation and videos online regarding that topic. For some reason, I’m inclined to say yes… Just a feeling I have. I understand one entity can have several aspects and be known under different names but it’s still the same entity.
I’d advise people to directly pray to Horus, the original source, rather than pray to Jesus, an aspect tainted by two millenia of bigotry, ignorance, prejudice, “Holy” wars, executions, homophobia etc.[/quote]
No jesus is an aspect of lick my balls. Jesus is a non-existent child-molester from your imagination…[/quote]
Thought form bro.
History is quite a thing to study, because despite what people say, unless it was about 200 year ago, no one in their right mind has a clue what was the “real” history. As time is a play thing in the grand scheme of things, I’d like to propose that the past is something that is created simultaneously with everything else, rather than a stuck occurrence. Maybe Jesus was just some dude who had some cool ideas at first, but now he is a certified God. Like any other God, some people think he is full of shit, and some people will worship his nuts, while others can literally smoke a few bongs with him and travel to different dimensions. The important thing is not what he meant to others, the trail of human history with these deities is so far lame to the power of lame.
I find it weird that as magicians, people still find the need to try and validate what they are believing, like the fact that others believe it makes it more real. I feel we are outside of the need for that, but as I am talking about it, I am guilty of doing the same thing. Honestly, these questions will wind up sprouting debates with no clear or “right” conclusion. This is why I feel the forums should be centered around practice, and that theory is best left for a person to make true or relinquish upon their own discovery.
No one’s gonna be able to give you a right answer, simply because the right answer is gonna be an answer you choose. History, time, reality… it’s all a game. Just play the bitch; no one is sitting at the PS3 acting like the shit is the be all of the world (well, at least most people). This shit is no different, play the bitch, have some fun, and quit sweatin’ or worrying about the technical shit. Yes he is an aspect of Horus, and no he most certainly not an aspect of Horus.
The first being I ever tried to contact after I left the Mormon Church was Jesus Christ. I wanted to know who he really was. How can so many people claim to have his personal number and everyone claim that he stood for something different. I wanted to know the TRUE Jesus so I could throw it back in the face of my old beliefs.
His response to my question is one that I carry with me today and is my answer to anyone who asks me what my religion is. “I’m just me. If you want to get to know me spend time with me.”
It was a simple yet sublime answer. And from that day I was open to the possibility of anything being possible. Cause shit, Heacte is just Herself, want to get to know Her spend time with Her. Belial is just himself …etc.
[quote=“Orismen, post:16, topic:1778”]The first being I ever tried to contact after I left the Mormon Church was Jesus Christ. I wanted to know who he really was. How can so many people claim to have his personal number and everyone claim that he stood for something different. I wanted to know the TRUE Jesus so I could throw it back in the face of my old beliefs.
His response to my question is one that I carry with me today and is my answer to anyone who asks me what my religion is. “I’m just me. If you want to get to know me spend time with me.”
It was a simple yet sublime answer. And from that day I was open to the possibility of anything being possible. Cause shit, Heacte is just Herself, want to get to know Her spend time with Her. Belial is just himself …etc.[/quote]
Interesting bro! Gonna have to play around with this one. My family are Jehovahs Witnesses… ICK… let me tell you its enough to turn you off of ALOT of stuff! HAHAHA
They tell you the waffer becomes the body of Christ, they just don’t tell you which part.
They tell you the waffer becomes the body of Christ, they just don’t tell you which part.[/quote]
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