be cautious how you swing that sword, people are waking up to the knowledge that phrases like that are used for manipulation and subjugation and not as a means of bettering the society that they live within. anything/anyone can be seen as those things because their are groups of people attempting to police their neigbors that see everything as being that, they don’t have your best intrest in mind for doing this, they do it because they’re little tyrants. in a forum where individuality is so highly prized i would imagine people would push against this tyranny, but apparently even many satanists submit to peer-pressure.
Which is basically what the study says, that different genders and sexualities have different types of brains.
The study I included refers specifically to sexuality and was taken from the US National Library of Medicine website, which kind of works like an archive of studies and experiments, I highly doubt the information is inaccurate, not only because one website says so, but as aforementioned, if you google ‘lesbian woman and straight men brain structure’ there are about 5 or 6 pages that talk about the fact that it has been scientifically proven that gay men/straight women & lesbian woman/straight men have the same or similar brain structure as certain parts of their brain are either bigger or small, less or more active.
So you said it was the attribution of human characteristics here:
But now you’re saying:
I don’t believe I’ve called any spirits or deities an ‘it’ at any point and in saying ‘not attribution of human characteristic.’ this contradicts your earlier point. I think there is some miscommunication here.
The study I included was less to do with masculine and feminine energy on its own, but to do with the brain structure of certain sexualities.
I completely agree with your above point, there is a lot of fear mongering going on, especially where things like certain religions, sexualities and race is concerned and other such things that shouldn’t matter at all.
I would say that it definitely is sought, but in different ways by different people.
I agree that it’s kinda been flipped on its head, the black woman used to be the most hated, but now the “straight white guy” gets the blame for everything these days, even though you can’t really blame an entire race & sexuality for your problems. - Just an example of how discrimination has gone over to what was already considered normal.
Ok, well, I hope by the time you see this, you’ve had a good night’s sleep and a full stomach, not sleeping more than 4 hours in 4 days sounds like torture.
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I was talking more from an observation of how the general population think and behave, rather than manipulating and subjugating.
I don’t think that working towards respecting people’s personal differences (though there will inevitably be things you don’t agree with) is the way forwards to a better society and one in which everyone feels respected and a society where we are civilised.
So then, do you think that division; the whole blacks vs whites thing in America or the global men vs women narrative that is getting old now, is going to better society?
Or the whole having Muslim extremists going to countries where the majority is Hindu and then vandalising their place of worship and killing cows is the way to go?
What about the demonisation of the US police force? I suppose that’s manipulation too right?
Peer pressure would be if someone said to me, “hey, do some cocaine with me, c’mon, you’re so boring, you need to loosen up a little” <-- that would be a perfect example of manipulative language and peer-pressure.
What I am saying is that we need to learn to be more accepting and respectful of each other, amongst other things, such as the broken schooling system which currently does not teach you how to manage your emotions, how to have healthy interpersonal relationships and mental health, money management etc… things that actually matter later on in lives, for the majority of our lives, of course we need things like maths and English too, but you get my point (hopefully)
their isn’t a black vs white issue in America, thats only in places like Twitter, step outside and talk to people none of that shits going on, BLM is a group of white ppl going into black neigborhoods and destroying them, while holding up signs saying they care about them. their the new KKK, people just haven’t gotten their heads out of their ass yet to see what it actually is. history will soon show this, i fucking guarantee that.
every state that has “defunded” their police has had double and triple the crime, murder, rape. that speaks for itself doesnt it? the people demonizing the police are the same ones destroying minority businesses and their schools and neigborhoods.
the teachers union is what broke public schools, and colleges have been bad for a long time people are just now starting to see it.
but none of this had any connection to the quote i highlighted from you, marxism has come back in vogue in America through (crt) critical race theory, and what you were preaching is that.
With all due respect, I can’t see the reason why you’re arguing over things, with which I’ve agreed with you already.
And where you’ve failed to see or accept the point or the whole meaning of personification (which was dictionary meaning, not my own making), you seem to have spent your time making it personal and picked it apart once again due to ideology (I surmise), where what I was saying, was the same throughout. I even emboldened the key parts, which you once again either missed completely or refused to see.
So yes, I would say there is some misunderstanding, not miscommunication.
Pronouns are language based identifiers, not human characteristics, though if you were to idealize identifiers as human characteristics, it only goes to show that the idea of masculine and feminine (which is scientifically proven for as long as you can look back in history, goes through all things, not just people.) is a truth, though it has become personal preference, based on…ideology and obviously perspective.
I’m glad we could agree on some points, and sad that we couldn’t agree on others.
Anyway, I’m stepping out of the conversation here, as it seems to be leading into straight up politics (which is not accepted on the forum) and leading away from the original conversation, witchcraft etc,
Thank you for the conversation, it was insightful.
Well no. There’s nothing stopping you from serving the loa without being initiated. But, from my understanding, there are certain areas of Vodoun that are inaccessible unless you’re initiated. So go ahead, call Papa Legba through his veve, introduce yourself and serve him with water, rum, a cigar or a cigarette, and maybe a silver coin if he asks for it. Just be respectful, but be yourself.
I see the things you agreed with me about, it’s the fact of dismissing or seeing the scientific studies as inaccurate. I picked it apart because I’m a detail oriented person.
Yes, the fact that most of it is repeated, is why I repeated some of my points.
I’m sorry that you felt I was arguing, at the end of the day, we don’t have to agree with each other and that’s what’s beautiful about the world.
The reason I carried on replying is because my original point was about the lack of spells, deities/angels/demons that are specifically good for LGBTQ+ people as a lot of things like love magick is focused on stuff like p***s candle spells or “get your boyfriend back” types of spells, however the whole back and forth conversation went into masculine and feminine energies.
I think masculine and feminine are more to do with gender roles and expectations rather than energy, though I know it’s different for spirits and sometimes for us. Then sexuality came into it and so our ‘conversational-tennis’ commenced.
Really? I don’t remember reading that rule. Thanks for letting me know, I’ll bare that in mind next time.
Hmm, I think a lot of people would disagree, luckily I don’t live in the US, but there is always this narrative of white cops killing black people and a general hate that certain races seem to have for others, because of what their ancestors did.
this is interesting, I’ve never seen that online or in the news, but like most things worth actually reporting, it never gets out, is there somewhere I could find more of this information that reflects what you’ve said in the above quoted text? I’d love to read more about that/watch a video or 10 about it.
I was referring to the demonisation of the US police, for example a lot of people in the US seem to think all cops are evil and there is a general irrational level of fear that black Americans feel in relation to US cops.
Wanting to learn actual valuable things in schools that would serve as very useful real-life adult skills is more than reasonable in my opinion.
This is where being initiated into a tradition comes in handy. Everyone in that tradition get connected, past present and future. You end up tapping into a well of power outside of your own inner stores.
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I tried to get initiated into Obeah, it is an caribbean form of witchcraft and a closed practice, as it is closest to the culture of my grandparents, I thought I would enjoy it, after a few months I gave it up. Wasn’t for me.
^ This has proven to be true though.
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I honor them through lifestyle and reading about their lives. They may also form parts of some spirit pantheons
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