[quote=“Lady Eva, post:19, topic:2529”]I don’t know what method/s of soul travel you use, I did a shamanic-style trance journey to the upper world of spirit with my example, intending to meet his HS and I made the case that I would love him faithfully (ahem!) and so on, and that I had a lot to bring to him because I’m basically pretty awesome.
The only warning is that HS’s don’t like to be pestered, so pick a good time when you have all your power flooding through you and ideally make just the one visit to her HS (you can check out the trance methods beforehand and maybe get some practice in) - sort of “Do it once, do it right” - this has been my experience anyway.
You could do that, and then make your case as strongly and politely as possible. It’s a start and it may do everything you need, with no risk of warping that person’s spiritual “destiny” or anything.
There’s an example shamanic journey here: [url=http://www.corpshaman.com/exercises.asp]http://www.corpshaman.com/exercises.asp[/url]
And info on the upper world here: [url=http://www.chitheshaman.com/upper-world-shaman.html]http://www.chitheshaman.com/upper-world-shaman.html[/url]
You need to either visualise a large tree in front of you once you’ve done the first part of that exercise to get to your “starting point” and then climb that tree, or fly upwards instead of descending into the ground as the first site says, and you’ll only be in the upper world once you feel yourself penetrate a kind of membrane, and then INTEND really strongly to meet with her HS - you’ll recognise them, and then you can speak to them, make your case, then descend back through the membrane, down the tree, back to your starting point.
I’m assuming since you’re here you’re familiar with the normal kinds of cautions and stuff not to go in with fear, just go in a spirit of frank curiosity and the love you feel. People learn this stuff in weekend workshops so I can’t offer you the kind of guidance you’d get there, but almost everyone can do basic journeys for themselves (doing them to heal someone else etc is where it gets complicated) and if you do any kind of occult work, you’re head and shoulders above the people I learned with who still successfully found the upper world and got useful guidance etc.
If you don’t feel any changes after a reasonable period of time with her, move on and try another method because if you repeat a journey too often because things aren’t going the way you want, you end up just muddling around in your own mind, so I’m only offering this as a first thing to try and not saying it’s superior to any other, but it is simple and ethically neutral.
Oh, and before someone says in my example the guy’s HS only agreed because it foresaw I’d move on, maybe, but still I had to do a seperate releasing thing because I’d linked our destinites, so I think as magicians we can change our destiny and that of other people… I mean, that’s kind of the point isn’t it?
Good luck.[/quote]
Omg thank you so much!!!