It looks like someone has the idea that this “community” is some kind of friendly book club/family to its practicioners.
Its not.
You are starting to bore me now. If you can’t handle something as asinine as “prejudice” then this isn’t the path for you.
Consider that you can be a non occultist, and still be an outcast in certain circles if you’re gay. You can be a christian and be an outcast in an atheist group.
For mainstream acceptance, the gays had to fight for decades in massive protests before some of society started accepting them. What you are trying to do essentially is to drum up nice PR.
I think it’s possible for you to do that, and if you feel the calling to do so, I think you should go right ahead! But just from your answers here, I say this kindly, there seems to be a need for you to be liked and accepted by others, and I don’t think you will find what you seek this way. How does other people disliking it have any impact on your ascension, unless you let it? you will always have to deal with people who will persecute you for what you do no matter how mainstream this gets. I think it might be interesting for you to look at why you have this need, because as you can see it’s not shared by many of us. Maybe for you this is a good path for your development, so I don’t want to dissuade you. You should do what you feel is right in the end.
Consider also that even if you manage, I don’t think you can do it without seriously diluting and distorting what we do. the real essence of it will always be opaque to non seekers, that’s the whole shtick of it.
Holy fuck if you circlejerking edgelords are the averege users on here I’ll take my leave, I tried to be nice to you but if this is how you want to treat me I am getting the fuck out
There’s nothing “average” about us.
Cheerio.
Oh, come on. I thought you were all about respecting others for their beliefs.
Hey. I don’t feel accepted by this. Plus I hate @anon96217651, is this still a circlejerk, then? An angry one?
We equally hate each other here.
I believe the appropriate term is an angryechopleasurecircle.
People dislike each other for their beliefs all the time, and you not being able to take counterarguments presented to you here in stride should make you think very hard about what you’re asking of outsiders
@S1M1 If this is how you deal with minor oppositions in general: have fun with your journey of finding acceptance as someone who does something that the majority of people would consider as highly unnormal, even for todays standards
Hiya OP! Some words of warning on this topic: aside from ‘representation and reputation’ being of no practical use to your personal magic, it’s a dangerous game to play. Even on here, appearances are just that, and civility isn’t equivalent to camaraderie- what I mean to say is that spreading awareness to better represent and fix the reputation of magicians will backfire. Criminalistic and crazy types alike are often attracted to magic as a way to get what they want without any traces, and there have been panics engineered over the slightest off-tone ritual activity being made public knowledge. If it’s discovered that magic is a tool used by criminals and psychopaths, whom are attracted to it arguably the strongest of all, persecution will increase incredibly. Second, magic isn’t for everyone, at least in this age, and that’s not something you can change by spreading awareness and making magicians represented.
If you want to know why, it’s because there are many generations of bloodline manifest in people today that refute the existence of magic and miracles, a root of resistance to the magical arts. I’m willing to bet that many if not most people who claim to work magic don’t actually believe in it, or rather choose to situationally believe in it rather than regarding it as the operating system of reality. Deeper (re: non-surface) magic has a way of protecting itself incompatible or just stupid people, and there are plenty of the latter to go around. This natural protection system prevents people who aren’t ready to understand from doing so, which can happen in various ways- persecution, occultation, or if the information continues to circulate, eradication of the leak’s source.
There are lots of people around that circulate base magical knowledge like this. If you’re really trying to increase acceptance of magic/ians, then you’d need to try to instill belief in magic across the world, which would subsequently result in the specifics you’ve mentioned.
TL;DR- to get what you’re after, you’d have to work to make the world believe in magic and acknowledge it as the operator and originator of reality.
ETA: you can’t change people’s beliefs unless you’re a politician or media institution (more repetitions = more belief), especially not with individual articles or things like that. To get people to believe something on the level that they believe they’re alive, you have to show them, and the only way to show the whole world is with magic.
Welcome!
Even then, still. I had a dickhead mentor think it was funny to try a curse on me. That was part of the “community”. The LHP specifically is a lonely one.
This.
Nods quietly the world isn’t my responsibility. Not now at least.
You wouldn’t have survived by trying to find acceptance outside of you. People use people. Its a fact of life. Ultimately you are the best bet of your own survival.
Welcome to the forum @S1M1
You admit you don’t know much about anything, but, instead of telling us if you have any actual experience at all in magick, you go off on a diatribe of the way you think things should be
Before you get too big for your britches, maybe you should try a spell or three. This whole post seems to be nothing but something to stroke your ego. I’ve been praciticing magick for two decades now, and, while I don’t hide the fact that I do, I also don’t bellow it from the rooftops. That is what religion does, and doing so would dilute the force of what I do.
Account closed at member’s request.
This “community” (ie Black Magick) has been disliked in the west since antiquity, even in Pagan times.
It was underground even then.
This is because normal members of the public are uncomfortable with individuals having extrajudicial power.
Never mind our stuff has to do with the more primordial aspects of existence, and the accompanying imagery is often frightening.