Hi,
I’ve been on this forum for a while. Now without saying too many details, I have life-threatening debt that needs to be addressed. It’s a pretty bad situation.
I’ve tried my approaches(which is just basically mundane work) and some rituals from both the Gallery of Magick and Lucifer and the Hidden Demons and some of the other authors that come from the same publishing. Due to limited time, I can’t really do the rituals I used to do because the mundane part of my life is taking up all of my time. I can only do stuff that’s not too time consuming to do ritual wise.
I’ve tried Nitika and all my other attunements to the wealth spirits(Clauneck, Mammon, Angels of Omnipotence) but I seem to have no result at all this time. I know these work since I’ve come to rely on them a little bit when the going gets tough on finances. To be fair, I’ve only called them via attunements since I’ve said above that it’s been hard to find a window to do ritual.
So yesterday, my friend passed on Suhn’Tal’Ock to me saying he heard that I needed help. I am going to try and ask for help from him but this situation seems to be impossible. I did not tell him I was in trouble, he just had a feeling to get the attunement for Suhn’Tal’Ock and gave it to me. I will call him via attunement later today but I’m not sure what to ask anymore.
I know that Magick only serves as a “nudge” to something that’s already kinda going to happen or you are working towards but frankly, I don’t know what to do at this point because this requires something bigger than a nudge.
Sorry for the long preamble but how should I approach this problem I wonder?
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In order to be really succesfull with stuff like this, it helps to examine and perhaps repair your relationship to money or wealth in general.
Do the work, ground yourself and let it go. Trust that the work is done and results are manifesting. Easier said than done, when it’s an urgent matter.
If that is too difficult, go for a spell that needs some “feeding” so you’ll have a regular moment everyday in which you can concern or rather focus on the results.
Something like this for instance:
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The spell work, using the bag and the lodestone is pretty much “regular” witchcraft. I’m sure you can alter it a bit, maybe even use a different demon like Suhn’Tal’Ock
I do have a relationship with Clauneck for a long time now via attunement actually so this one might be up my alley.
My view on money in general is that it is not scarce but it needs something to be obtained(like work for example). There is no such thing as a free lunch.
Maybe this view is giving me some sort of limiting belief?
That is a good starting point, especially working with Claunek from my experience ^^ This stuff works better if you also do the mundane work as well and have prepared some mundane avenues in which it can manifest…
It does sound like you have a realistic view on money.
By repairing our relationship with money and wealth, I do mean examining more what wealth means to you, what money means to you, how to feel wealthy for you personally and if that is a realistic or a delusional view. Trying to establish if there is something you can do to have a healthier relationship to attaining wealth, enjoying your wealth, sharing wealth and keep being wealthy etc.
It’s probably rare that somebody who’s not wealthy is already there yet. I know I still have a long way to go before I’m there. Due to upbringing and society’s view on it etc. (Goddess knows, enough wealthy people have a skewed view as well judging from things like the sheer greed, up to inhumane and even criminal levels in a lot of cases)
I think, until you do that there is a good chance of it manifesting in weird ways mostly, if at all.
For instance: I absolutely suck at properly managing my finances and saving money. Meaning whenever I do some wealth operation purely for some extra money (instead directly of obtaining an object or service or something) I am moderately successful in medium amounts and usually I loose it quickly as well because of things like appliances dying on me, unexpected bills or opportunities coming my way costing about the amount that I attained.
I’m kinda sucky at managing my finances too. That’s why I’m here in this situation.
Seems like that whenever something good finance wise happens to me, something extremely bad happens after like me not being able to hold on to that money.
I feel cursed actually but I have been diligent in doing my daily practice at least banishing and the like but it still feels like I’m cursed when it comes to money.
To me money is just there to get things that I need. I don’t know if that’s the correct way of thinking about it but to me I don’t understand some people just trying to get money all their lives without spending a cent of it. I spend it on the important stuff like what I need or what my family needs. It got out of hand though so now I am in this situation.
I feel you! You’re not alone ^^
Bad news, it feels like a curse someone has put on you, but it’s probably a “curse” we put on ourselves. There’s no (external) banishing that helps that, I’m afraid. Don’t stop the regular banishing on that account though
I’ve completely wiped away all my debt a few years ago by very drastically cashing in all my stocks (win or loose, I wasn’t exactly Blackrock or Buffet though, so it wasn’t that significant.), selling a bunch of my stuff and practically living like a Buddhist monk for months. I still suck at managing my finances, but at least when I’m being a dumb shit now and don’t have my impulsiveness in check or have to deal with a big payment I missed or so, it means having to live on water, cup noodles for lunch and rice and veggies for dinner a little while. Instead of waking up at night thinking of all the bills I still need to pay, not really being sure how much trouble I’m in and the pure dread every time the doorbell rings.
This is an example of perhaps repairing your relationship to your finances and wealth in a mundane way. I wasn’t really into practical occultism then, but I’m sure you could combine this with devotional work to some spirits or deities
I still have a long way to go, but part of the process now is that I designed my own sigil signifying pure money and apart from that wealth and me or the Self. I spend a little while every week charging that sigil and sitting in contemplation of my relationship to all of this. The healthier my relationship and the better my view of it all gets. The better all these wealth spells seem to manifest.
I highly recommend this spell with Claunek or any kind that needs recharging or feeding, I’ve kinda tailored it to my personal style over time and used it a bunch of times successfully for things like a (couple of) hundred euro’s to tie me over over for a short while or help paying off bills. Feeding the lodestone is a great moment to reconnect to Claunek and being thankful for the help even when nothing has manifested yet, empower your intention and showing your commitment in doing the work, instead of just sitting back with hand out. Which, I feel, is very much respected by him.
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Let’s just say I borrowed from…less than ideal organizations and of course on top of the legitimate organizations like banks. This is actually an exceptional case of “got out of hand”.
I stand to lose what I have actually if I don’t find a way
I’ll definitely try this spell out. Just gonna have to find the materials and the time as well.
I do like charging sigils until they manifest. It just takes a long time personally.
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Let’s be honest… Financial magick works fast if you are into trading, gambling or similar conditions that give you opportunities for money to come to you.
I agree with @LvxMferre , if the problem is serious you need to make a deeper work about money.
Changing your beliefs, trying to “heal” bad experience you have with money etc. Then you also have to adapt your lifestyle/spendings.
The more you adapt, the more the magick will find room to influence.
I performed a lot of financial magick since last year and the results were totally random, yet i managed to increase m’y savings. Lately i could get products i needed and they were discounted ahah.
To sum up:
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change your relationship with the spirit/idea of money
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try to develop a sense of abundance/security. Even if it’s hard only when you can manage to feel it you’ll be able to perform more magick fueled with those emotions.
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try to work with Saturn for long lasting results, the Sun for frequent benedictions and Jupiter for raising at work or luck at gambling.
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