Let me know how you get on
. Im rooting for you. You’ll get there, i know it.
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thanks
I just need this so I can retain consciousness after death
You still believe you won’t just because someone told you that you wouldn’t lol?
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may i ask why you’re so determined on this?
It’s not really something you should seek.
maybe i’m missing something on your background / interest.
But for common occasions,
i don’t really recommend someone to attempt this by his own.
And,
generally speaking,
in regards to Death you should talk to Abbaddon / Azrael / Kali - who ever suits your understanding best, out of the Death-Gods.
I think you might overly romanticise the concept.
Death is painful.
Each time you go through it again.
Not something you should seek.
But if you really want to gain your own gnosis on this…
What’s your degree of expierience?
Can you fully travel outside of your body,
or is that the motivation of your working,
to gain Soul Travel skills?
…
But since you already ask,
it’s not like there aren’t any answers…
and since you make the impression towards me,
as if you might need it handed in chewable pieces to you;
Draw a circle,
into a box,
into a triangle.
Insie that,
you place a Wallnut,
representing your Brain, and the seat of your consciousness,
on a piece of white silk or Cotton,
which represents your energetic self.
study that object,
laying inside the circle, in the box, in the triangle.
Assume, you’ve never seen anything like it.
Try to grasp it,
as a child tries to grasp the weather around him.
when you feel a dark pull and hopelessness,
you’re actually doing it correctly,
so don’t back off just out of fear.
You’ll project your understanding of your consciousness into the walnut,
and your astral body into the white cotton.
notice,
how they’re not the same thing.
Notice,
that they rely on each other.
Then,
let go of your consciousness.
Take the walnut out of your field of view,
and simply gaze the white cotton itself.
At that point,
the lingering discomfort should have grown to an extend,
that actually does feel frightening.
actually even horific.
once you do feel that compellment inside of you,
you’re ready to project your self - and i mean only your energetic self - not your mind, not your consciousness;
into the Cotton.
It takes either sensory deprevation,
or a solid Trance state,
to actually get into the correct sensations.
But when you expierience them,
you have no doubt about them being real.
Try to drift fully over,
into the sensation,
and - ideally - seperate your energetic self from your vessle.
It should natrually remain calmly in a coma / Sleep like state,
once you’re out.
Unless you’re actually trained in Soul Travel,
and capable of projecting whilst being awake.
Now,
when you bound yourself completely inside that cotton,
and go back into your body,
you can feel a part of you still clinguing inside of the cotton,
regardless of you going out of the room,
back to do other stuff,
even work or sleep.
next,
you grind a fine powder,
from the Walnut you used to represent your conciousness inside the exercise.
Mix it with a Dagger’s Tip (0,3g) of Copal incense,
and then add Mhyrre, Clove, Lavender and a Drop of your blood.
Grind it together until you have a nice paste like consitency,
adding more blood when it’s to dry or not binding.
the paste,
you should store cold and dark (fridge or cellar),
because you want to keep it,
in case anything goes wrong.
You then,
place the paste on the cotton,
and speak into it:
"Sat Nam,
true self,
remain dormant and secured,
regardless of what my body or soul do.
I trust you,
to await me,
for when i’ve expierienced,
the renewal of my H’ak’akal.
I let go of my mind,
my attention and my worries,
my hopes and my dreams,
and store them safely,
to remain untouched,
of the working i’m now undertaking."
Place the jar in a safe spot,
and make sure you marked it for later use.
Then,
imbue either yourself into a Magickal object
(if your main goal was to overcome your body,
and be released from it,
but remain in this world),
on the Cotton,
similar to how you imbued the paste,
but by forcing all of your energy into that item.
Or,
let go of your vessle and drift into one of the Gates,
that you can percieve during that state.
if you prefer to let go of your body completely,
simply stay outside of this world,
and make a full cut away from your body.
If you prefer to just “sight-see” in the other realms,
go outside,
but keeping a firm sensation of knowingness,
where you belong,
and intend to pull yourself back,
after your traveling has been sufficient.
Now,
to sum that up quickly,
why do you need that paste then.
The paste,
is capable of breaking the effects of the ritual and pulling you back into a more “human” state,
whilst the other expierience is actually going,
and percieving to die,
to release from the faculties of this world.
Going back,
and continuing life,
after you’ve crossed the bridge,
can be very difficult,
depending on your actual state,
and skill level.
So i included that act of caution,
in case you,
or someone utilizing this rite,
might run into problems.
- i highly recommend you stick to having that backup when you go deeper.
It’s actually part of the expierience,
and also helps loosen the grid towards your current vessle,
when you’re preparing the paste.
Not sure,
if this answers,
what you wanted to know me.
As this discussion has gone on for a while,
since you’ve asked for advice.
But i guess i covered most questions you’re about to ask regarding the topic.
Enjoy the rite.
Sincerely,
¥’Berioth
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I think he follows EA’s idea that at death you dont maintain consciousness after death (atleast if I remember correctly he said EA) but given I’m pretty sure he’s young he’s kind of thinking way too far into the future and just kind of assuming that’s the truth of the matter. So he wants to make sure he doesn’t end up that way.
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That seems really strange to me that EA thinks we dont retain consciousness
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Why would that be strange?
Conciousness is a subfunction of this specific form of incarnation.
Transmutation is necessary between incarnations.
Do you know,
how nasty it is,
to be haunted by memories of people,
not even existing around your new actual place,
just because last incarnations memory was retained to much=?
That’s nothing pleasurable. 
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Ah yes I believe that our memories of this life slowly fade away so we forget we were even here…oh…wait…now im confusing myself lol…ok so our memories from here fade but we are still consciousness? Just forgetting our time on earth.
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Transmutation yes…but I thought we were pure consciousness, and the reason for living different lives is to expand our consciousness?
EA never states that you lose consciousness. He only states that what you think of as you dies. Personality and memories and such. What remains is that which is your true self.
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Now I don’t believe you lose consciousness, because I remember my time before each reincarnation, being my “true self” and doing things then just going back into the reincarnation cycle to learn things out of curiosity.
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Right, yes! That makes sense to me, thankyou.
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Wow thats some gift you have being able to remember that, thats awesome! My son told me when he was little that he remembered choosing me as his mum before he was born but now hes a teenager he cant remember it.
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I’ve heard few parents experience this with their child and honestly I love that lol. I’m not a father myself, but when I hear things like that I always wonder how the parent feels.
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I honestly felt so happy and honoured that he had chosen me. Now if hes having a moan at me i can always remind him he chose me 
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I recommend checking out a book called “The Key” by Whitley Strieber. Check out these quotes from it about consciousness and the energy body:
Paying attention to physical sensation is paying attention to energetic sensation. Being awake to oneself and one’s surroundings increases the intensity of the impressions so that they affect the spin of the electrons that are present in the nervous system. In this context, being awake means being aware of one’s own self while at the same time absorbing impressions from the outside. The increase in spin and enrichment of the complexity of the pattern of being that results brings more and more form to the radiant body.
And
The part of the electromagnetic field that fills the nervous system rests a few centimeters above the skin, outside the body. This field is an organ just like the brain. It is in quantum superposition, the electrons effectively everywhere in the universe and nowhere specific. It may be imprinted by information from anywhere and any time. With it, you may see other worlds, you may see the past and the future. You may haunt God. However, the process of imprinting causes the organ to cease to be in superposition and thus to cease to be accessible to further imprinting. In psychics, there is either an inborn or learned ability to balance the attention in such a way that these impressions do not cause this organ to become focused into a particulate form. The ability to control this organ can be developed.
How?
Many practices will work, but the best is to meditate in such a way that the mind is concentrated in physical sensation. This relieves the pressure of impressions incoming from the physical world on the electromagnetic body and enables it to expand.How far can it expand?
Anybody can become God.
This book is pure gold. It contains many concepts associated with LHP philosopy and praxis.
It is written by the same Whitley Strieber who wrote Communion, the famous alien abduction narrative. The book describes a conversation he had with a mysterious visitor in the middle of the night at three a.m.
Interestingly, the visitor suggests that he may be the demon Legion or the Archangal Michael – or possibly both.
The stuff that book has to say about the mechanics of conscious energy and the nature of ascension is priceless.
I think it’s so valuable that I just took the time to type all that out by hand.
Anyhow, I hope you find this relevant to the concerns being discussed here.
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When I was in the ToV we had a practice called going “Behind the Eyes”, which I suspect was lifted from the headless way. It results in extreme lucidity in the here and now and also results in immediate experience of the true self.
Thanks so much, I really appreciate you sharing that info. I will def be getting this book! Ive read a few of your comments and quite honestly am blown away by your knowledge.