While we are on the subject of animal sacrifices I would like to clarify that I do not condone the painful torture of an animal so as to kill it. When I kill any animal it is as quick and painless as possible with a gun shot to the head. Any other method is barbaric and shameful. I agree with DarkestKnight that sacrificing animals just for the sake of it is really un-called for regardless of the method and would hold no value in the scope of the Demon world.
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In modern times even jewish people or pagans sacrifice animals. Its a symbol of veneration. Since are sensitive creatures we can only express a higher degree of cult externally.
I know many say to not practice this as a religion but the mere fact that we âworkâ with spirits that makes an act of religion.
No, it doesnât 
Not sure where you got that idea, but do you even understand what is meant by the word âreligion?â Simply working with spirits is not religious.
The difference is that for Jewish people it is done in a specific ceremonial way by an ordained religious leader. Itâs not the same thing as you buying a goat and killing it, since they know what they are doing, and are very aware of what the sacrifice symbolizes, while you obviously do not.
If you want to do it, then do it, but I think you would be far better served by meditating on Luciferâs seal and chanting his enn to actually connect with him and begin to establish a relationship first.
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Yes it does, thats why its call demolatry.
I know what my offering means.
But I may not follow an specific rite, but de facto implies an act of cult to Lucifer.
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LOL You really have no idea what youâre talking about, and obviously arenât interested in learning how to do things correctly. so do what you will.
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Thats no true, because one thing doesnât contradict the other one.
This is why many other systems get to use certain ceremonies, no only like wiccans but the emulation of a Catholic mass.
So far I see many people believing in one or another system but everything comes to the same.
That is an exterior act in order to perform a âriteâ. You said that all this isnât religious but the contrary, but many systems of magick like voodoo that is considered a religion, also the greek or egyptian gods are into a religious system.
How is worshiping Lucifer not a religion?
Now I pay attention to you when you mention that sacrificing a goat isnt the ideal thing. That I donât neglect your knowledge or turn down your opinion but remember that I have the same right to my opinion until I get the proper correction, no just âyou dont know what you doingâ or âdo your thingâ.
Im starting working respectfully with demons, but I have no plans about âworshipingâ a shit. Where is the religious part of it? By your words, I must be a demonolater, but Im not.
Some systems of magick are based in religion, yes, but that does not mean every system is. My cat and my neighborâs cat are black but that doesnât make every cat in the world black. That kind of inductive reasoning is based on a faulty premise.
So, by this logic, every ritualistic act would be considered religious. Washing your hands after you go to the bathroom is no longer an act of personal hygiene but religion then.
You can very much work with Lucifer and not worship him. Many, many people do.
However, this debate is going nowhere and is off topic to C. Kendallâs thread so Iâm going to end it now. As I said, do as you will, but if you want to be successful, learn to do it right.
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Iâm not going to comment on the whole religion or not thing, but uhm⌠Sacrificing an animal is not something to be taken lightly, even if it is an earthworm or an ant all animal sacrifice is to be taken as a sacred thing. Animal sacrifices have been a part of many religions and customs in many cultures, but have always been something done by a priest(ess) or shaman, not the average Joe Farmer. And that is for good reason!
You should not do any such thing if you donât have a strong understanding of and connection to the entity/ entities in honor of which you are sacrificing, if you donât know the true meaning of the word âsacrificeâ, if you lack extensive experience in butchering an animal quickly and efficiently so itâs death is as painless as possible, if you have no understanding in what to do with the energy released and if you have no plan in what to do with the animal afterwards.
If you lack this understanding, you just senselessly killed a living being and havenât honored anything or anyone.
If your understanding is that any spirit just demands an animal sacrifice just because itâs considered a demon, I fear your knowledge of working with infernal spirits is just something you get from movies not from really working with them.
If you want to honor Lucifer, sacrifice your time and effort in becoming a person your are proud of.
Or sacrifice effort and energy and start doing the works described by mr. Kendall in the original post of this thread first and see where that takes you.
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@LvxMferre I have a idea I am fleshing out. When I was Catholic we had a thing called true devotion to Mary. The idea was you formally consecrate to her all the spiritual value of anything good you do as a perpetual sacrifice even when not thinking of it, and you leave it to her to distribute to other Christianâs the grace needed where itâs needed. I can tell you itâs potent.
Now take the same concept of true devotion to Lucifer. Make the pain in every act or the effort in every act or the mere energy of every act a consecrated thing to him or to him through another demon, and offer it to him either as part of a pact, or devotion.
Letâs try that and see what happens. My
Instinct tells me youâll need to put sunglasses on.
And psychologically it would appeal to Lucifer.
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Hahahah exactly the kind of thing I both respect and despise about catholicism. Itâs potent magickal practice and the hypocrisy of condemning all magick but itâs own.
This sounds very interesting! I am in for it ^^
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@LvxMferre They donât seem to realize- Ok itâs one thing to say a prayer and mean the words. Thatâs not necessarily a spell. But when you offer masses for mundane needs under the auspices of merit and efficacy of the blood of Christ, youâre into magick. If you offer a ritual for a specific personal intent beyond the literal scope of the words, itâs a spell. Youâre utilizing the perceived energy of the thing for your personal ends.
Another practice you could invert is Consoling the Heart of Lucifer. Imagine his rage at injustice and fight to console him by acts of sacrifice. Too much creativity here.
Whatâs the difference between Catholicism and Protestantism? I know a bit.
@Epsilon_The_Imperial Protestantism is the Luciferian version of Catholicism, lol.
No, the Protestants read the Bible very literally and saw the ceremonies and images the Catholics used as Pagan additions, so they decided to strip away everything they thought was extra and stick with the Bible only.
The Irony is they basically caused an insurrection based on their conception of true fidelity to God and justice in regard to him.
So they themselves have a Luciferian streak, lol, rebels. But they donât see it that way of course. Ironically the Protestant ideology is Luciferian, I have the right to read and think and act how I want according to my conscience and no established authority can contradict it.
I think in the higher circles of the church they must know and realize, right?
We had unconventional dinner talks when I was a teenager living at homeâŚ
My dad once laid out the specifics of the last sacrament and pointed out how, despite the catholic church denying reincarnation, it was an occult means designed to bind someone to catholicism and making sure they reincarnated into a catholic family.
Or perhaps most of the church went the way of the freemasons and completely forgot the spiritual meaning and power of their traditions?
@LvxMferre I wouldnât say that, I would say they limited itâs scope within a framework where all there is is the psychological warfare between the mindset of a belieber and a demon, but no occult forces or intermediate forces that could be leveraged apart from direct appeal to God.