He Whispered About the Universe Being a Prison — My Experience With King Paimon

Spirits, Evocation & Possession
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Hello everyone, I’d like to share my experience of attempting to summon King Paimon.

I’m not sure if it was truly successful, but it was quite an interesting experience.

It all began when I was studying and a moth suddenly flew into my room. I took that as a sign, and later that night, I performed the summoning ritual for King Paimon. I first carried out a banishing ritual and made all the necessary preparations for the ceremony.
During meditation, I could clearly hear my parents talking downstairs, and also the sound of wind blowing through the trees. There was even a strange noise—somewhat like a yawn, but different and unusual.

I chanted King Paimon’s enn about 15 times in a row. At one point, I saw his sigil partially fade away and then reappear again. I also saw a vague triangle-like shape.
Afterward, I asked King Paimon for a sign. Just as I finished my request, I heard the wind blowing again outside. Then I asked again for another sign—this time, I noticed the northern candle was burning faster, and I heard a faint hissing sound from it.
Still unsure, I decided to ask a question: “What is the Universe and what is the Soul?”
Suddenly, I found myself thinking and answering it within my own mind, as if King Paimon was responding.
The answer went something like:"The universe is like a prison. There are frequencies, and it is ruled by gods. The universe is constantly being recreated at a certain vibrational level.”
And about the soul:“The soul is a source field of energy, a frequency that humans release in order to reach a higher level.”
Then I heard something like:“If you wish, I can help you summon and control souls.”
At that point, I thanked King Paimon and closed the ritual, but I didn’t immediately clear the altar.

I simply went to sleep and kept chanting his enn silently in my mind.

In my dream, King Paimon appeared and led me to a place where there were about 6 to 8 gods (I can’t remember exactly how many), in a vast white space.
These beings seemed to represent different levels of wisdom or power. They were speaking loudly while King Paimon and I stood at the center. He appeared calm and noble, and I stood beside him with both arms outstretched. Right at that moment… my damn alarm clock went off and ruined everything.
The next morning, I asked my younger brother if he had yelled or made any strange sounds during the night, and he said no—but he did feel unusually hot, which coincided with the exact time I did the ritual and ended it.

So my questions are:

Do you think I succeeded in summoning King Paimon?
Has anyone ever received a similar answer from him regarding the Universe and the Soul?
Do these answers sound like something King Paimon would say?
I’d greatly appreciate any thoughts or input you can share. Thank you!

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[At first I read this as a dream interpretation only - I added some space to help separate the paragraphs for easier reading. ]

Your alarm clock going off might and been what helped you remember. Uninterrupted dreams tend not get recalled, so no stress there. :slight_smile:

This seems a mix of Gnostic and Buddhist beliefs. You might like to read of the Gnostics and similarly the Cathars believed about the purpose of physical existence.
It’s all a bit too nihilistic in parts for me but on the whole there’s a lot I agree with in their philosophy and in a lot of ways I agree but I’d just use different language that’s a bit less judgemental.

There’s a youtube summary I like here - gnostisism summaries are easy to find, not too many people talk about the Cathars’ spirituality in this detail.

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So, in your opinion, do you think those answers were accurate? Have you ever asked Paimon about this yourself? And from your personal perspective, do you think my ritual at that time was successful? I’d be really happy to hear your thoughts.

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I saw these questions after I added the whitespace, so to be relevant about those…

I sounds good, but I don’t want to get into using my UPG to verify your UPG. I would encourage you to trust yourself and that your subconscious impressions were interpreted correctly.

I haven’t asked him this question. I posted above that these ideas already exist in the mind of man for at least a few hundred years. Nothing here is new.

I think it comes down to semantics in the end. I have a strong feeling there’s a lot more complexity to it than that. Prison: I suspect for some it is, and for others it’s not. Trying to sum up humanity or physicality in one sentence isn’t really going to cut it for me So what I do at times like this is notice these as observations and opinions, but bearing in mind that this is an opinion not a fact and opens up many more questions we don’t have answers to. and there are many other explanations that compete, I withhold judgement until I get more info.

I rarely work with Paimon but in my experience, this is not an unreasonable interpretation of the subconscious impressions.

You have to remember - these are not his words directly - you rarely get clairaudient language, you get symbols, ideas, flashes of insight that you are interpreting using your human conscious brain. That brain is designed for survival and to look to identify everything asap and to look for threats.
So you have to be cautious about letting it run away with interpretations as it will add things that are not true based on your unique system, memories, and mindscape where they are at right now, often from a fear based perspective, because fear keeps you alive.

If you keep your Grimoire and do your best to stick to the descriptions and feelings, the impressions other than the end interpretation, you will give yourself a chance to reread it later, remember it and make more interpretations. There’s usually some Easter egg in there that doesn’t stand out until years later and you read it and it surprises you.

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So, can I ask him to give me an IQ of 500? I know it sounds ridiculous, but I’m a bit curious.

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No. At this level, you’re influencing energy and probabilities, which is why you need to have a “path to manifestation”. If there is no mechanism for you to get there, you can try and maybe you’ll get improvements, but don’t expect miracles.

You need to raise your kundalini and basically ascend first to get sidhis to manifest something out of the ether - like brain structures with IQ levels not measurable by current standards. These are miracles more than magick.
But if you have ascended this already makes you a faster thinker with better memory, and you would likely have bigger fish to fry.

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He isn’t wrong. But he is echoing a recent Re-Creation of the Astral Universe in this iteration. Someone recently Re-established the Aeonic Grid this past year… which caused a temporal Power Blackout.

What Paimon means by it being like this is he is referring to this Realms “Aeonic Boundry” thought of as sort of “Spiritual Enclosure.” In kabbalah think of it as a Vessel that holds the Essence. Your Physical Body is a Vessel… but then the entire mass of your nation and its inhabitants is also a sort of Larger Vessel. His referrence to it being like a Prison is taken from a certain perspective, but you can reframe it, as Reality comes with both Positive and Negative influences… which is what the practice of magick is meant to be used for amongst many other things.

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Ah, what I meant was more like forming a literal pact — like a true contract, where the one making the pact has to offer something beneficial in return in order for it to be fulfilled. In that sense, I’m not even sure I meet the requirements.