The mental illnesses that I am personally addressing is bipolar and BPD. I was wondering if anybody has went through something similar or a different mental illness that has been cured or treated well by working with deities.
Not by working with deities directly; but with medication and therapy I was able to use simple energy work to take my panic attacks down from 2-3 per month to that many per year and I finally stopped the voice in my head that said âI hate myself and I want to dieâ on repeat, 24/7, from the ages of 7-40.
Overall, symptoms have continued to improve in the five years since. Iâm on a low dose of an SSRI now and my Doctor and I are talking about ramping that down and maybe even revising my diagnosis so that it doesnât include the words âdepressionâ and âanxietyâ for the first time since I was 12.
And as someone whoâs spent some time in a hospital⌠I know how tough bipolar and borderline can be. You have a ear here if you ever need to just talk.
This seems like the way to do it. Deities can teach you, but you donât necessarily need them for it.
I have been dealing with hearing unwanted voices when I was a child. I was sent to a psychologist, but what really helped me in the end was practicing energy work in order to regain control over my body and mind.
I was able to silence my panic attacks and some more serious PTSD issues I thought I had under control before already.
But I donât want to sugercoat anything because it got MUCH MUCH worse after I picked up workings with spirits before it finally got better and it was NOT pleasant or easy to process (in short: I was confronted again and again and again until I found ways and mechanisms and the confidence to deal with it in a more productive manner). I am out of the burning house now and I donât need medicine (which I had to take earlier in my life). But I donât know if making the symptoms worse on the bipolar spectrum would do any good, so I would suggest energy work like already mentioned
I did a similar thing to @Eddie_Romanov, for war and childhood PTSD. I wasnât actively practicing at the time and took a mundane route to start with (weekly for a few years). From there, I went down the Taoism, Tai Chi, and Qigong route to try to balance myself back out. Took a lot of work.
I canât honestly say if it wouldnât have been faster or more efficient to call upon any entity that specializes in healing of different types (body and mind).
Never underestimate simple meditation. Itâs one of the best practices you can have for becoming the you that you want to be.
I would never personally recommend against seeking professional help or tell someone not to take prescribed meds but what I can tell you from my experience is that my depression had been very bad for very a long time. Last year it got to the point where ending it seemed like it would be for the best. If my wife hadnât found my letter and then found me as fast as she did⌠I wouldnât be here today.
I was able to stabilize for a while with some therapy but the depression was starting to creep back up in a bad way. The difference for me this time is I had been meditating and working on invoking different spirits. I wasnât even trying to reach out to Azazel⌠he reached out to me. He pointed me towards âShadow Workâ. Accepting the darker side of myself. He explained that there are things we want, that we think we shouldnât want. Things we feel, that we think we shouldnât feel. And that we have thoughts that we tell ourselves are âbadâ thoughts. But they are a part of who we are⌠and thatâs okay.
He told me to stop feeling guilty and to just be honest with myself. That not only would accepting my whole self help me with my depression⌠but it would help me on my journey to align my chakraâs and I could begin channeling deeper⌠fartherâŚstronger. I havenât felt an ounce of the crippling depression I used to feel in weeks.
Yes. Sekhmet and Freya in particular and recently Fenrir. I also use two subliminals to help.
As a BPD, Depression & Anxiety sufferer, I turned to Baal first, and then a number of other powers along side that.
What came was a complete suicidal attempt breakdown about 3 months in to my re-journey through magic. I lost it, very nearly hospitalized, the whole nine yards. However 24 hours on from that major event I had a level of clarity and calm Iâd never been able to find in myself previously. That event was a huge turning point. No longer riddled with my own doubts, self depreciating thoughts, mood swings etc - I finally could see in myself the godhood that was always there. I was able to recognize it, harness it and use it to create my dream life. It is the hardest path Iâve ever walked, but Iâd do it again in a heart beat.
I believe EA has said it before in his videos - you will be torn down and broken in order to be rebuilt. It will be painful, horrible, almost unbearable. But trust me when I say that was rises from the ashes of the past, is so much more incredible than you ever could dream of.
All the best
Try the book Iâve been using, there are angels in there that specialise in mental illness and the rituals are beyond simple.
Razielâs path to power vol 2
Working with spiritual entities really fucked me up. What do people expect? Like, you go down the pub and talk to your mates about how you evoked a spiritual entity to visible appearance? Magick will put a zap on your head; indeed, I have long advocated head-zapping techniques as an aid to Magick. If I were to talk to specimens of Homo normalis about what Iâve experienced, theyâd call a rudder truck and have me taken away. So, working with spiritual entities will probably make your mental issues worse. Thatâs where I acquired my mental issues.
You exist in a fucked up society â notice I didnât use the word âcommunityâ â so, if youâre not incarcerated in a hospital or penitentiary it means you havenât been caught or just share the mental disorders of the vast majority.
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so your point is, to shut off the mind completely during ritual, and to allow yourself to merely experience whatever will or will not happen, and after you are done, you return to yourself -in order to not corrupt your own mundane mind?
In shamanism thereâs no such thing as mental illnessâŚ
What people call bipolar can be described as continuous self denial of emotions and thoughts etc. that create a split personality
If you just focus on the energy aspect of it the rest will wash down into the mental, emotional and physical, qigong has helped me a lot to neutralize polarities within my being
You can try breathwork and meditation also
Another thing is to become the observer, as in⌠donât become the feelings or the thoughts, simply observe them and nurture them, be the nurturance that you need, hold it like your child, you can get creative with itâŚ
Iâve also seen a bunch of Shem angels help with things like that also, itâs really up to you which path you take
Letting go of red meat has helped me a lot, eating more plant based and chicken as my meat source
But these are only boosts to rejuvenate you, they can help you become more aware of the trauma but if you canât hold space for your trauma and fully feel it to heal it, itâs wonât solve your problems
Breath control rituals are my go to in those types of situations
I donât know where that came from lol, a person can have their own spiritual practice and beliefs, and if anyone has a problem with that and is willing to impose their ways onto you for it, press charges, you have natural rights, stand up for yourself, I went through the things youâre talking about and Iâm just fine, in fact I woke a lot of people up, donât underestimate yourself, donât dim your own light for those that are still stuck in the mud
Crutching too hard into occultism during mental health crises and episodes can cause psychosis (and is, in fact, prelude to psychotic episodes). Predatory cults often try to make you think that youâre not actually mentally ill, but rather special in some way, itâs extremely dismissive of mental illness and itâs struggles. This is usually done to rope people in who experience hyper-empathy, anxiety, and, most commonly, people who are on the spectrum.
I disagree with Alahimavatara here considering âshamanismâ isnât a singular religion or belief set; my indigenous shamanic culture knows the reality of mental illness and has an entire subculture of magic intermixed with health care dedicated to it. âSplit personalityâ (dissociative disorders), bipolar, and borderline donât have anything to do with each other; they can definitely comorbidize, but they do not cause each other: it would be the event horizon trauma that would cause BPD in one or more alters to someone who has DID. Bipolar, no matter which type, doesnât cause split personality at all. Itâs is called âtwo polaritiesâ because it fluctuates between manic or hypomanic episodes and depressive episodes, not because there are two or more âpersonalitiesâ or alters.
Entities can help you and encourage you to seek help, but it is extremely important to know and understand when you do need this-world help. The demon Marbas is more greatly specialized in physical health, but if anyone needs to Iâm sure one could ask him for mental health help, or at least the means to bring opportunities for help. Loki and Odin in modern Heathenry are considered patrons for the mentally ill, and I have personal experience with Loki as âFather of Monstersâ to help guide me through episodes and learn to both accept and love myself, as well as know and understand I am not above seeking help.
So, as someone who has struggled with a fellow cluster B disorder, the help I gained from entities to accept myself while still being able to seek help to fulfill a life that I can live for myself did help me take control of my symptoms and accept them while also learning to cultivate a better life for myself. Itâs a careful touch-and-go situation to learn where the psychotic delusions end and the legitimate spiritual help begins.
A lot of anxiety and depression can definitely be helped with mindfulness (typically a technique utilized for energy work, shadow work, and other occult teachings, hence why a few people here likely gained such good results from their working - itâs a genuine practice that does make you feel better!). Routine, as well, as Norse here pointed out was helping them. Gaining a purpose, an energy outlet, and a ritual that can ground you are all important factors to mental health, whether you spiritualie them or not.
It can be harder for other things, such as trauma. Shadow work can definitely help, in fact shadow workâs entire point is for this purpose, itâs essentially solo therapy, but the reason why therapy wit a professional is important is because it is meant to pace you better. The professional knows how to guide you, when to stop, where and when to keep pushing, what to avoid, etc. Thatâs also why therapy sessions are only so long, so often - typically twice a week for half and hour to an hour, or once every two weeks for two hours. The amount of time in between each session is for healing and processing. Itâs the same in shadow work - when you do a working, it is very important to take time to heal afterwards.
Although this is a couple years late for OP, I hope you were/are able to find the help youâre looking for. From one cluster B to another, I wish you the best, and know that while it is a lifelong burden to carry, it does get better, especially if you surround yourself with people who know, understand, love, and care about you.
I respect your side of it, a lot of shamans have different perspectives, but looking from a metaphysical stand point itâs all energy, so mental illness is simply an energetic distortion manifesting on the mental and emotional bodies, which can be corrected from the energy bodies
I have had multiple problems with myself from conference, self worth, physical, depression, anxiety just to name a few. I also had suffered trauma that I had suffered from this life and others.
I remember it got to the point that I was suicidal. That was bad. Nothing really was working for me from professional doctors to just trying to explain to my own mother that would just get upset and start blaming her self which made things worse.
I did do some magic with angelics and Egyptian gods as well as Hindu but it didnât do much on my problems I was having. Then I started to work with the Goetia and I felt a huge difference almost immediately. For the first time in my life I felt grounded and walked with a confidence in myself that I didnât have before. Soon I started to see myself push to improve myself more and my resolve had also improved.
Itâs been about two years now and I feel I had made a 360 on myself. Am I cured? No. I still have some problems like conference. But as I was told âWe can give you a lot of things. We can change you physically and manipulate your mind to get you to start doing better and think better. We can get you to do things that you normally wouldnât do or want such as working out in the gym or going on a airplane when you are terrified of flying. But when it comes to some things like true confidence, only you can obtain that your self.â
how did you preform the energy work
I suffer from schizoaffective disorder, OCD, and depression. I have worked successfully with Buer and Marbas to heal some of the issues that I face because of my mental illnesses. Combined with medication and therapy, Iâve been relatively successful in putting my life back together.
I think as long as your doing it along with medication and therapy. Working with certain deities to help you in that area too will be beneficial.