@WiseManEcho This video explains the problem with the Chakra system.
PART OF THE PROBLEM?! ARE YOU INSANE?!?!?!
the chakras are literally energetic centers of the physical body.
the sephirot are the energetic centers of the astral body
HOW CAN EITHER OF THESE THINGS BE A PROBLEM??? ITS YOUR FUCKING BODY, ITS A PART OF YOU! YOUR ARGUMENT MAKES NO SENSE!!!
ok im not going to discredit this manâs workings because i believe they are legitimate.
but iâve got to use this as an example of why i NEVER work with rituals of pure elemental darkness.
casting your mind into pure darkness like he has is (to me anyway) foolish. and dont go gettin up on some high horse talkin bout âWE ARE THE LHPâ and whatever just for me saying that. look at the look on this manâs face. does he seem happy? does he even seem like he has a soul? he looks dead inside if you ask me, and thats not where i wanna be. also i dont wanna deny reality like him, what the fuck was that shit âthe false light spectrumâ?? its not fake if you can see it with your eyes.
âbe thou ever filled with lightâ those were the words my master Thoth taught me as he showed me down the pathâŚit was a week later when i realized it wasnt moralizing or a sermon. it was literal instruction.
the way it was explained to me is that light and dark on the path of the magus are not moral decisions as many like to try and make it seem to be. what they are are elemental constructs that reflect and defy one another a truly polarized form of the same energyâŚHOWEVER! light has a benefit over dark. and that is the mind and body of the magician.
the light will evolve you, clear your mind, and make you aware of your spiritual surroundings like no other force in this universe. but like i said, light and dark defy one another so the inverse applies to filling yourself with darkness. it will devolve you, cloud your mind and judgment, and spiritually confine you into a prison of your own making. its side effects are cursing the world, drowning in fear and lashing out at everything and everyone just to feel as if you have control over everything. its a sad fucking way to live and i want no part of it.
some among you may say âwiseman wait a secondâŚthis is the LHP, shouldnât we be questing after the dark forces and allowing them into us to use the power of the dark forces to our own benefit?â the truth is yes and no. not fearing darkness and using it to ones own will is the perfect example of a magician of the LHP, but letting it lingerâŚthats where i draw the line.
fumbling around in the dark is only going to lead to a stubbed toe and no one to blame for it but yourself.
and if you dont think a LHP practitioner can be of the elemental light then i suggest you take a good hard look at an entity named Lucifer.(translated from latin meaning âthe light bearerâ) its a difference of opinion, legitimate on both sides, but entirely seperate in elemental delivery and practice.
you may find great comfort in the darkâŚmany do, but i prefer to see where i am goingâŚand whats coming for me.
ok
I adore Kurtis and what heâs doing, but damnit man, that was one fine-ass rant!
Well, we had Atlantis already come up, and this may or may not (for Kurtis) be about the idea we originally lived in almost total darkness using our third eye, orbiting Saturn and existing on a higher plane so that we were less dense, and then got somehow trapped in solar orbit (links to the demi-urge) and stuff like that.
I read the stuff, and take on board that bits match some gnoses I have (but others donât) but there is actually a whole school of thought, and branches thereof, that maintain we were not intended to rely on the visual light spectrum as out primary sense.
So, to paraphrase something I posted, to honour âlightâ above all would make no sense to a bat, because light doesnât have that symbolism of bringing in formation, and maybe it doesn for us. Also related, we do honour sound (seed mantras through to the concept of logos and magickal languages) so thereâs more to our world of power and learning than just a set of specific radiation waves.
Same here. I love @KurtisJoseph. I really do. I think everyone knows by now that as far as darkness and the Chakras go I agree completely. I also disagree on a few fundamental matters.
or at least like 80%.
Just to clarify, I didnât mean his work, I mean the âSaturn originsâ stuff, which is a topic that branched off into its own thread before
I like to remind you that this is BALG. We are open to other peopleâs option and not bashing it down for being different then ours. After all, we donât want to look like the people who bash/excommunicate us for using magick.
i was confused how something like an ARM or a LEG could be problematic for anyone. it still kinda makes no sense to me.
also for the record iâve been on this forum for a couple of years now⌠im quite familiar with the rules. i just wont stand for bullshit and lies.
A reading through geosophia by jake-stratton kent and his other works will clear up the problem for you, he places the spirits in the Goetia in their proper place as pagan gods and spirits of dead heros that far predate anything monotheistic.
Which is fair. The idea of the chakra system limiting us seems weird to me. But Iâm still open to hear why @TheStorm belives it so to be.
Letâs be honest for a second. Magick in itself can be quite weird and unexplainable at times. And it takes time for a mind to sometimes adjust to a new idea/perspective.