this stage of my life, boyfriend works abroad and is a loser. Shes into ai like me. I see catalogues of spirits and spells, ones for breakups, ones for destroying relationships ones for attracting her to me and closing the deal. Heres where it gets sensitive… I want to cause her to breakup with him and then get with me however i dont want it to be the ordinary dominate their mind and it wears off creating resentment or backfires type deal, i want her to genuinely ant me and believe that its her own choice to leave him and choose me. What sweetens this even more is that her boyfriend has committed countless acts against me in the past. As per usual no super powerful grand demons its overkill. How do i approach this?
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I think you can try a breakup spell and then this one
But I think what you’re expecting to be done entirely by magick and spirits might be unrealistic. You manipulate and weave your reality with magick, but you still have to live it. You can spellbind someone to you, but if you really like this girl you might also just want to use your charm and possible natural attraction there already is between you two.
It seems a little unfair and perhaps also unrealistic to fully rely on magick and spirits for a meaningful relationship, instead of building up a connection with another human being the normal way. Magick can always get you somewhere, but it’s not a substitute for reality. You still always have to do the mundane work as well.
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No i am not expecting magi9ck to do everything, however in my case of being slandered to high hell it is needed… and I do intend to connect with her as she works in a little shop i like and i know the owners, this is a good ritual but i can only use candles, i dont have a good location to safely use an ethanol flame, The Master Key The Seal Of The Antiverse: where do i find this? and this The Master Key [image], thank you
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Click on the link, it takes you to the thread with the full ritual including the sigils. I’m not sure it’s beneficial to substitute something for the Isopropyl flame. But maybe a candle will do. Make sure you have a dish or bow to put the burning sigils in (and mind that the bottom can get a little hot).
I think you might still be succesfull if you just draw her to you and then show her the slander is not representative of your authentic self. Changing someone’s feelings this way is a little manipulative and more alike baneful magick. So it can work perfectly, but also has a slight potential to bite you in the ass if you don’t really mean to use it in a baneful manner. If you wish to mostly rely on the ritual, I’d suggest to state your desired outcome in a concise way. Hope you succeed!
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Venus pentacles …
Use Rose and or Dragons blood incense.
Use green or red candles.
Write a poetic spell to have eyes from her only on you.
Green string with three knots around a poppet of you. Binding love between you two.
Conjuration of Venus spirits
Venus table and Haniel seal.
Perform on Friday during hour of Venus
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Elaborate on how this can bite my ass and avoiding that
That is informative, Im eally into astrologickal magick and tghe frame work christopher warnock put into place (I think balg should create a mastering astrological magick course), the efficacy of charts progressions and horary is astounding. do you craft talismans by any chance?
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Thank you firestorm, funny you shold ask.
I learned a little bit about planetary magic via Denning and Phillips. I also learned a little bit more from a teacher that I had. Unfortunately, Frater S no longer has his blog up, which was a treasure chest of magic from a Qabbalistic standpoint.
I am currently learning a little bit about talisman’s from Kraig’s Modern Magic Book
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On a bunch of different ways. Depending on the situation and the personalities involved.
See it like this, a baneful operation is an aggressive move. In mundane life, if you approach someone aggressively, even if you don’t mean to be aggressive, can provoke an aggressive or at least an adverse response. In this case it might not be a direct response from the girl since this is not so much a direct interaction, but the response could be by the way your outcome manifests. You can be extremely succesful and then she can get obsessed, for instance (and that is not as appealing as it sounds), or it can trigger obsession or other underlying issues within you etc. etc. etc.
Other than what I recommended, draw her to you by spellwork and establish a good and meaningful relationship by mundane effort. A way that could help is to clearly envision a beneficial outcome for both parties, not just for yourself.
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Out of the spirits from EAs books, that are spirits not of the goetia or qlippoth big names, but rather wandering spirits, voodoo spirits, the spirits that are only found in Evoking Eternity, Works of Darkness, Kingdoms of Flame, etc … I don’t know offhand which ones except in matters of love and seduction. Anyone else know such spirits from EAs books?
Ladilok from Kingdoms of Flame (the second Kingdom of Flames table) is quite possibly the spirit you are seeking.
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I know of these spirits but I do not know how to approach them
however one who appears and surveys to the north east literally written on a loose page of my personally grimoire I am writing, well the page jumped to the northeast so I was like I’ll try this one for general purposes.
Strangely enough I have been thinking about ladilok all day and I will commune with her about my love life because it is fair to say I am frustrated with the ordinary women of my generation beyond what in ever expected, I am not speaking about women of intellect or virtue who I would never cross
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Rather romantic, aren’t you?
If anything works, and that’s a big if; the spell might last a month because she will become upset (even subconsciously), even if the spell gets nowhere at all, and she will never want to see you again. I think that the only reason some spirits do these kinds of spells for people is to teach them a lesson.
I mean, you could keep being nice to her.
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You may consider changing your approach. Use Magick to highlight yourself and increase the aspects you have that she finds desirable. Then put yourself in close contact repeatedly.
This approach avoids direct Magick on your target, but still gives you the extra push you need.
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I’m just going to go non specific, this is a waste of time and energy
Teach a lesson, What is the lesson? Any practical advice on avoiding any backlash
Regardless I have decided against wasting time and effort on just one in case of failure, better to make myself a beacon of attractiveness
Exactly.
Depending on the scenario, I use an energetic “lightning rod “ a construct that will catch any backlash. Usually entirely energetic, on occasion though I will fashion an actual wooden rod. Enchanting it so it will catch and ground out any return.
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That’s clever