Gatekeeper Belial

So i am reading the sample pages of Belial with out a Master and this quote i find contradictory. Godless but we respect the divine nature in our selves and other divine be they gods or not … I just feel like there is contradictions.. No faith many operate with faith, aswell as knowledge this confuses me any body care to share some insight into these sayings.. One who is not favored by any gods does that make sense when some deamon/demons them selves are looked at as gods ? Any how just curious for other perspectives.. It make me feel like this is not for me.. With out family , with out hope etc? I appreciate any chime in.. Maybe i am taking it to literal? I do have a great respect for Belial Ive done one rite with him. Have not worked with him but again much respect for this force or entity if you will.

“All of the devices of ritual and ceremony, the candle’s flame and the sigil, the incantations and the enns, these are all meant to teach you how to withdraw mind, how to stop thinking and start being. “Be!” Belial commanded.

Be at one with me, be at one with yourself, be at one with another. These are all contradictions; be and as you be in accordance with that what you desire to manifest, it will be impossible for that thing not to rise, and now you desire an even greater communion with me, with Azazel, Amaymon and Abaddon, who have previ ously dragged you into the Infernal Empire, through the burning gates of the Lake of Fire and you followed us and you will follow us again until your very damnation, you will follow us. Until your very damnation, you will follow us. This didn’t sit easily with me: until my damnation. The idea of damnation is necessary, as Azazel had made very clear to me years ago, in order to break free from all forces that would otherwise bind you. “Why is this? What does this mean? What does this mean?” I begged Belial. The greatest bind upon the soul of man is his own mind and hav ing mind man looks to other men and wants to ensure that they see him well. The demon answered. Even the acceptance and salvation of a god to a man is not as im portant as his acceptance by other men. Only therefore may a pa riah approach these gates, for the first bond has already been lifted and then only one… only one who is not favored by any god may come to these gates and they open them. Only the godless, he who is without faith, without country, without family and without hope, may come and walk through these gates.”

Is that 2 quotes? I had trouble finding the exact text you are quoting to read it in context, can you grab a screenshot or anything to clarify? I want to be sure that what you heard is what it said.

You punctuation and use of white space makes it really unclear, and you gave no page number to help find it in the text.

I put it slightly differently myself - but I get the premise.

If you operate only in your imagination, you are what the remote viewers call “building castles in the sky” - you’re telling yourself stories that only exist for you in your mind, your personal astral, and not reaching out past yourself to effect change outside of your being in shared reality.

Imagination can get you started but you have to very quickly connect with the same energies everybody else is accessing, and receive from shared energy, or you’re just setting yourself up to be seen as insane and not get results.

Basically, magick is the manipulation of energy in your environment (sometimes called your ‘Sphere of influence’) so, you have to be able to reach that energy, and put in enough new energy to change it. This is MORE than mind (aka imagination) alone.

The tools (“devices”) then, are what I think of as “hooks” to get your mind into the right state to move that energy. None of these things, not the candles or the incantation are magick by themselves, they are magick because you make them so.

The saying in qigong (an energy working modality) is “Energy follows mind”, and “Intention is everything”. You are using the “devices” to help you, by convincing yourself and your body that you are doing something, and then, you are.

The long quote starts on page 24 of the Compendium I believe. Let me take a look and I’ll come back to that when I have more time.

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Agree on that, your text is becoming unclear and not easily readable, it tires the eyes (and the brain :wink:). I’ll try to give some answers and I hope I understand correctly what you’re asking.

It doesn’t mean necessarily an atheist who is against any type of divinity, it means not enslaved, not subordinated to any external gods as a worshipper or servant. You approach Belial as a peer or an ally to your self deification path and not as a beggar asking for favours. Don’t forget that Belial is “Without a Master”, that’s the rejection of any master/slave hierarchy and the point he makes is that the traditional RHP theistic approach keeps you bound.
Even if you work with demons who may be viewed as gods in their own right, the relationship should be a relationship of alliance and not a faith based submission.

Yes you do take it too literal. It doesn’t literally mean “abandon your family, country and hope and become a nihilist”. It’s symbolic of the pariah mentality, it means the inner detachment from what keeps you bonded to the tribal mentality and approval seeking norms that offer you external validation. It’s about breaking the biggest chain aka caring what others think of you. Including gods/demons. It’s about inner sovereignty. To pass Belial’s Gates you need to be willing to be “worthless” in the eyes of the old order, the one that wants you chained and bound. To be an “outcast”.

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Thank you so much for the clarity. I felt i was taking to literal. Some thing I have to work on but also felt there was symbolic meaning. I thank you for the clarity! Really helped me decipher a clear picture of this message given. Pardon me for the text not being so clearly written. Thanks for understanding.

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