Hello guys,i am nobs here,so i just did my evoke on King Paimon last night. Before i evoke him i have read all the research online and on the form,so i still choose him for my first evocation…
I call him with my universe circle by E.A, and i prepare some teas and cookie for him as an offering and i burn frankincense,Candle in dark blue.
I have no experience in hearing or seeing spirits but sometime maybe i can feel them.So i gaze the sigil calling king paimon to come,keep calling but i cant feel his presentation.
I continue it about half an hour,so i actually say what i wanted.
But after i mention something like " i wish i could feel you" my candle pops a huge sound actually scared the shit out of me…
So i finished my evoke with king Paimon, i told him what i want and i thank him for coming…
Is this an success? what can i do to improve my skill?
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Is there really a point to evoking spirits before developing the necessary skills and senses for communication?
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How is one to do so without calling on spirits to begin with?
Yes it absolutely is.
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I’m a new bie too, can I ask you how did you recognize a success in his evocation?
What is the best way to learn how to interact and communicate with spirits?
By contacting them, of course. You have to start somewhere, right? If I was about to learn how to talk to people in general, I don’t do that by standing in front of a mirror to chat with myself. That would be silly. Sure, you can train to recognise energies and auras, open your chakras but you never learn it properly without an intelligent recipient.
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And he appreciated them. As I read it, that feeling just flooded into my mind.
I can tell you from personal experience I’ve seen some very interesting things happen to candles. So, I would say you got a very clear sign.
The hardest part is to stop doubting yourself. We all struggle with this, myself sometimes more than others.
If you want to establish communication with a spirit, I would evoke him and tell him that’s what you want. Then ask him to guide you and help you establish communication with him.
If you can’t feel his energy very strongly, pull more of it toward you. You are the sorcerer and you are the true gateway. Imagine Paimon in some way and when you breathe in, reach out through your imagination and pull him toward you. Do it over and over for as many breaths as it takes you to feel his presence strongly around you.
Ask him to settle in deeply against you and “soak” in his energies. Allow your auras to sit there together, “syncing up”.
Those are the most useful techniques I’ve found that helped me establish a deep telepathic connection with the spirits.
I can’t speak for anyone else, but I simply tuned into the energy of it and felt it. I have also worked with Paimon for an extended length of time, so simply thinking of him allowed me to establish a link with him.
It’s kind of like when an old friend thinks of you and you think of them at the same time.
As far as seeing the success in my own evocations, I relied more on my own sense of feeling energy because that was the strongest for me.
You have to learn how you can sense spirits in the most natural way for you and then work to develop your other senses over time.
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Very true, but isn’t it better to practice with regular spirits instead? Deities are very busy and I can only imagine how awkward it would be.
Azazel: I am here. Speak your will.
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Azazel: I said I am here. Do you not hear me?
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Azazel: Don’t tell me you called me here without having any way of communication. Never waste my time like this again.
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(leaves)
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Absolutely,
It’s quite simple really. Anytime a spirit’s name is either thought or said out-loud, said spirit is present by virtue of that.
So when Luke said: [quote=“lukeswhite, post:1, topic:11527”]
“I wish i could feel you”
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King Paimon used the candle to make a popping sound, and thus indicate he has indeed filled the temple with his presence.[quote=“valkarath, post:6, topic:11527”]
I have also worked with Paimon for an extended length of time, so simply thinking of him allowed me to establish a link with him.
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This is one of the many sweet fruits of this labour.
I did the very same thing.
After reading your post, Luke, I simply just asked Paimon myself if you were successful and he was present. He indicated yes, and showed me what was what.
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Wow! thank you!,i was really excited about your replies, as i doubt myself for the first experience cos i am abit nervous .He actually pop the sound twice,first when i ask for feeling about him,the candle pops instantly after my sentence and second when i dismiss him from the circle!
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Hahahaha that’s cool!
When stuff like that happens, don’t be afraid! Occurrences such as that are indications that you have opened the gate!
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thank you for the reply and sharing your experience! that really make me feel more confident. the problem i really doubt myself too much,actually its the second time i try to evoke him,but the first time i was hurrying the process as i am not prepare,hope he won’t mind.
When i gaze the sigil i actually can feel its moving or Floating around for sometime.
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Hahaha,yea i have read some post that he appeal with a huge noise,the candle was just right inform of me so i was shocked but after that i know he was here. Will be working with him in next few month,i hope i can learn from him
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Join the club. I’ve went through periods of doubt many times throughout the past year. I feel like I’m finally moving past that particular limitation, but … time will tell.
He didn’t mind. He told me to give you this simple message … “I am a patient teacher”.
Awesome. That’s a sign that it’s open and active.
I like to think of sigils as a kind of gateway. If it’s open and active, it’s allowing the spirit’s energy to flow to me. And if I need more of it for whatever my purpose is, I can use my imagination to reach through the gateway and pull more the spirit’s energy to me.
That’s a symbolic way of looking at it. Try not to get too caught up in the “what are the actual mechanics of magick” aspect. I spent too much time trying to figure it out for myself … and it honestly doesn’t really matter in the end.
Just understand symbolic actions can produce very real results.
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Imo, yes! He popped that candle!
Did you do any divination
Nope,I don’t know how to read any sign
Actually, King Paimon sort of chose me.
King Paimon Chose Me (I Think)
I was actually trying to contact Azazel.
Since then, King Paimon has come to me in my dreams as a well-dressed businessman wearing a large diamond ring on his left hand. If you’ve seen the beer commercials with the older gentleman that says, “Stay thirsty, my friends.” Except, he’s wearing a tie and is clean shaven with no beard and mustache.
Of course, that’s how I envision him. Don’t depend on descriptions in that old medieveal period grimoires written by Catholic priests trying to scare people from doing magick.
Do the research, but trust your own experiences and intuition.
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He appears very smartly dressed to me as well, all in black including his face and body, and plainly not “human” but the impression of complete smartness and elegance is very strong!
I don’t think I’ve seen that description very often, it’s nice to know he takes that form with someone else as well.
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Nope that sounds perfect.