@Maxx - I agree. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if a good solid portion of Mormons are actually going to end up in a mass-delusion created Celestial Kingdom with the LDS Eloheim, and a Jesus that sits on a little throne at his right hand. The Astral is so malleable. I even wonder how many of the entities in the broad stretch of grimoires out there are thought forms or entities made by magicians for specific reasons and never given a termination date?
@Zoe - haha, yeah. I’ve done something similar with Joseph Smith. Got his essence in the triangle and started questioning him about all the aspects of the LDS church. It was definitely an astral shell. It was “sleeping” most of the time, I had to wake it up and remind it of my question. Really strange encounter to say the least. I dunno if I’ve put this out there, but I used to be LDS, served a mission to the Philippines and everything. My intimate relationship with the Mormon church has actually brought me to a new understanding of energy, how it works, how it can be used to deceive people, etc. So, as fucked up as the LDS church is, being raised in it has actually lent me quite a helpful hand in understanding occult principles, philosophy, ritual, and actual works. So I guess “Thanks” but, yeah, “No Thanks” hehe
Not to get waaay off topic, but I had some missionaries knock on my door about a year ago. I invited them in. They bore their testimonies of the truth of the church, one of them started crying, and the energy in the room skyrocketed. Then one of them said, “that feeling you feel right now, that’s the spirit telling you that you need to come back to church.”
… ah, so THAT’s how they get people!!!
Had I not had my recent occult training I would have never realized what just happened.
Lucky for me, I had already been a good 2 years into my magickal training and could tell instantly that the energy was coming directly from them, pouring out of their chakras. Without their knowing nonetheless. It was NOT coming from the divine source. However, they believe in the church so strongly, that they literally emit massive amounts of energy during a testimony because they simply believe that when one bears their testimony, the spirit of god will bear witness to the truth of it. And because they believe it so fervently in their minds, their spirit actually opens up and pours out as much of the best feeling most euphoric energy it can.
And that’s the craziness behind the LDS conversion cycle of accidental deception. Although, on some level, they surely know they’re doing it. Which might make for the high incident of depression, pedophilia, and “porn/masturbation” addiction in the LDS church.
Another point of interest is the insane amount of energy in the temple’s celestial room. You have millions of believers who believe that the celestial room is the ONLY place on earth God and JC will come in person. that it is THE holiest place on earth. The energy in there is immense. And honestly, I have considered getting back into good standings with the church just to get back into that room. As an aspiring black magician, that amount of raw, unbound, pulsating energy could be directed and used toward any goal. Seriously. That’s some good shit there. However, there have been times where I’ve gotten the level of energy in my home to surpass that during my chi gong sessions. So - it’s not as appealing now as it used to be. Pretty interesting though, the strange dynamics of energy and how it’s natural form and function literally plays into the deception of an entire religious organization.
I’m convinced that the LDS prophets and the 12 apostles are privy to certain meditations and exercises though. I mean, those guys have pulled off some pretty interesting stunts. And if it’s not all out fraud, it’s stuff you can’t very well do without some level of occult training.
Sorry for that rant
Just got a bit excited there - some subject matter I’m fascinated with