Hello,
So I want to put a curse on a practitioner of the Santeria religion because they have caused me some problems. But this person gives offerings to the dead and he offers to Eleggua which is the deity opener of pathways in Santeria he is the equivalent of Exu ir Eshu. I do not know if they practice Magick, all I know is that they make offerings. Will the dead protect them, and the spirits they offer to come after me?
They might not even need that. One of the issues with trying to curse practitioners, is that they can tell. They feel the energy coming in, and negate it, possibly with will alone, maybe in this case using ghosts, that’s up to them to use their magick as they want.
The second main issue is them returning it to sender. This is what starts co called “witch wars” of people getting into a spiral of cursing each other. So yes then the spirits they work with may well come after you.
One idea is you can scare them into helping though fear, or disguise the working so they don’t see it. Furfur can help cloak a working to an extent to try a stealth approach, there are others but I forgot who.
Basically I am kind of like a beginner as I have only been doing Magick for about 2 years, and I am not as skilled as others. I don’t have the skill to perform evocation. To work with Furfur would I need to evoke him or is there a certain ritual to help me conceal the working?
You could petition Furfur, and use divination to check if he accepted the petition. But it sounds like you might want to work on cursing someone who can’t fight back before you take any steps, you might be starting something you can’t finish.
Thank you for the help, I appreciate it
How do you know who they offer to and pray to, just out of curiosity? If they told you that part, imagine what they didn’t tell you about themselves… let us know if there turns out more to this, because I’m curious to see how it goes.
Yeah so we actually work in the same department in my job, and in small talk he has said that he offers to the dead, to the Orishas, and a day ago they uploaded a picture to Facebook stories which showed red and black candles with red and black statues and fetishes of their deity ( Eshu, Eleggua). I believe those were offerings. This person said that he was not initiated from what I understood. They said they wanted to travel to Mexico to become a Saint in the Santeria religion, which I believe is initiation. Maybe I’m wrong. But if they do attack I’m pretty sure I will know and I will have to other option than to employ protection Magick( which I’m very new to) and retaliate with some candle and symbolic curses. Any advice is much appreciated, thank you.
Well Damon brand protection book. Ben woodcrwo ft ,or something like that.but if you go tat way,check Amazon Kindle Brazilian Magick ,and you answers are there.but also wat I learn on any kind of Magick is the better,and big you protection,and spirts you add ,the better chance you get the win.also purify yourself whit baths.
Bael “bestows invisibility upon those who call him.”
Maybe call on him to hide you and your workings from this person.
Honestly demons not help.a quick story a guy was a chaman he was doing good business in town and santeros got jealous he was. Cheap.honest, always speak the true,and know a lot,well someone say he was cursed his business in cementerio, but he use high Magick old school, the one you never hear,and boom same day he return the favor,how,using a a simple prayer,of 6 mnts,peoples say the santeros house was a screaming, etc.wat the guy did was pray for protection and send back,wen I ask wat was involved,he say shadows scratching their bodies, is all he hear,the santeros never trough the shaman was a student of various santeros,paleros and old time witches, and Europe Magick,
That’s what I was thinking I need to make protect myself vetter, and add spirits to help me out. Thanks for the advice, I’ll look into the books on protection, I appreciate it.
That’s a good idea, he is also one of the strongest qliphotic spirits right?
I also appreciate your advice thank you
Samael is good too. According to Satan and Sons he can use an enemies thoughts against them.
Maybe find allies within their pantheon too?
It doesnt hurt (usually) to get to know the entities they may be working with. In my case i avoided backlash from a powerful Hindu God just because we had decent relations and we negotiated.
Also Surtur is good for protection if you can form an alliance with him. Deities of the Night too
Thank you for the advice, will offering to surtur work? As I don’t have any evocation abilities, or any divination abilities either.
Well… if you’re looking to battle with a santeria practitioner… lace up your boots my friend. Maybe it will turn out to be a good learning experience. I’d focus on protection and defense before engaging in a battle with someone more seasoned for warfare. Get rid of whatever they’ve done to you and you’ll be more equipped to whip them later on. In the meantime you could petition someone to investigate the situation to find out which of these suggestions made by other forum members will yield the best results. Which entity do you trust from experience and have some form or semblance of working relationship with?
I am a beginner at this so I haven’t worked with many entities but I have cursed a person just by calling to Marbas in the I chal az itz rechel chant provided by EA Koetting, and the working was successful because what I asked for did come to pass.
Thanks for the advice though, I probably won’t attack this person anymore because I just found out that many of the family members do the same stuff and are more advanced, some of them practice necromancy, and the persons wife supposedly has a spirit of the dead that speaks through her. The spirits might come after me and I’ll probably loose, I’ll just focus on my ascent and place protection Magick in place in case they do attack. Thanks to everyone for the advice.
I’m glad to hear that. Living our lives in a baneful state may invite more malice than love, and that’s never a good way to live.