Yeah Belials like that. He wants you to show backbone. Not sure why you’re praising spirits who haven’t done anything for you unless you’re leaving that out.
Before I worked with Belial the first time I was reading about everyone’s expierences and I thought “ wow this dudes pretty awesome”.
Then I heard a voice in my head say “ don’t praise me when I haven’t done anything for you”…
thanks bro!
about the backbone you’re right and i’m trying to be more tough but i praise them becouse they do and did help me when i’m asking from them but it’s really confusing!when i do the evocations i don’t get a respond or a sign if
i’m asking for it…they show up unexpectedly and i’m confused…how to tell the difference when they talk to me and not that it’s my own thoughts?
My suggestion would be to meditate with their sigil, use there enn’s to simply call there energy in your temple. In this way, you are basically allowing yourself to marinate in there specific energetic signature. Do this until, it starts to become familiar and you just know most of the time whom it is.
This way when they do speak to you outside of the temple, or wherever else that may be, you should be able to determine by the familiar feeling of the energetic presence that it is truly is whom you think it is speaking to you.
Not only will this help in identifying, it also is building a relationship with them subtlety, I mean, think of them like a person whom has never met you. If you met someone by reading an article about them and then just show up on there doorstep, and expect to chum it up like old friends, there going to tell you to piss off.
Same concept.
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lol!thanks bro and point taken:blush: i’ll do like you said!
All you need to do is back out of the spirit world and live through your physical senses. That will unfreeze your family, bring good luck back, protect you, damn the people who cursed you, etc.
You need to make a commitment to living through your physical body & senses like you’re married to it.
Forget about these entities you talk to. It’s not going to ever get you out of the hole you’re in. It’s only going to get you in deeper.
I must admit I got confused: They do deliver what you asked for, so why are you doubting and “losing hope” as you said? Because you can’t hear them with your physical ears? That will come with time. For some takes longer than others, but that doesn’t mean anything. What matters is that you can communicate with them and they deliver… So…I don’t see what’s the problem on the 2/3 of your post…
Soror,
That was profound!
When I started I was very young and hopeless. Couldn’t effectively do anything. I still wonder why I continued - doggedly. Waded through Crowley, fell asleep reading E.A. Waite but great just before bed with a top shelf, stiff drink as something to sip as you crawl through Waite and sleep descends.
Started relying upon myself, weak as I was, but with constant practice and **Liber Null & Psychonaut, Magick opened to me. At this time I noted the solitary Magician traditions of Europe and applied myself. Joined a rhp (teaching) Order and learnt a lot. Left Magick and ended up doing the greatest Magick of my life. Didn’t realise until far too late. Since my realisation I have applied Myself to Aeonics which I fell into via applying Chaos Paradigm Magick.
Al.
Is that something that actually happens?
Yes, of course 
Ok, this is out of my realm entirely but I’ll try.
First off, Please make sure you break up your wall of text, I read it; but not everyone has the patience to read through that, it is kinda hard to keep track of where you are in the text.
Secondly, I recommend meditation if you have the time. Or you could use binaural beats to start as a upper for your senses
I have a succubus with me and she speaks through thoughts. Any way I could get it to that level?
I’ll pm you so we won’t derail
Ok, thanks.
thank you sis!!! but… i can’t let my guard down!!my mother said the exact thing a a couple of months ago
if we live her in peace she would leave us…big mistake!!!big!!huge!!! we left her alone and wek later
we got bombed with major curse which coused us such a big fight i nearly left the house…
not to mention other troubles.
you see she’s the type that love and enjoy when others suffering. like:my life is great so i’m gonna make others suffer ha ha so i can be on top.so we had to make her sit on her butt.
but it only works for aweek or so becouse she messing with black magic herself(learned from our ex-enemy who now too afraid to use any kind of magic)
but this one got many defences and she’s loaded with money so now after she got the boomerang from the ancient gods she turn to other pepole to make the dirty job.
yeah they save us every time hail the ancient gods!!! but i need my 3’rd eye to open so i’ll know what the first hag
did to us couse she went to four gypsy muslim witches to curse us badly and i don’t know what they did to breake and get rid of it. i can’t tell you how frusterating
i am becouse of that.
and can’t communicate with the ancients gods to know how to solve it or if they are ready to work with me.
so many lhp brothers and sisters here say they can talk and see and hear them but i’m spiritually blind deaf and can’t hear their guidance.
and i don’t know 100% if they agree to work with me or not…and i’m feeling quite lost becouse of it.
it’s like i’m on a hold in a phone call…
bro yes thank you i’m doing right now just like you said,reading a lot and using the incantations from the incantation topic.
this topic is pure gold!!!
practicing magick candles also and waiting like you said for magick world to open to me.
done that!! hope it’s much clear now it’s just so complicated that i had who reads it will get the full picture:weary:
bro thanks i didn’t heard about binourial beats until you told me:sweat_smile: searching for it right now!!!
and plz brothers and sisters keep the advices coming i need every help or methood you can share
that #$%$@#%#% curse was mede un 1995/6 and before that we had such a great life and i want them back 
Massage a little heating gel widdershins into the area of your third eye. Best before practice and before sleep.
Al.
P.s. Obviously don’t get it in your physical eyes.
thank you so much noel!!!
and to all the brothers and sisers here that gave me advices and their guidance thank you again so much!!! you don;t don’t how they are important to me couse i’m at war here and they are life savers!!!
i just have something more to add…about the relatives of us that won’t get off my and my mothre’s back…
this saturday she went to see arabic magicians and hexed us again(we so it in the cards)…so my mother is in another weekly tantrums,but i finally found out what they do.i think he/she using djinns!!!
the places where she used to sit in our house started to filled with mold and i been reading here
that it’s a sign for spirit activity… somebody asked about it and c.kenndell said that the mold it’s connected to some arabic magick…any advice/spell/incantation how to to neutralize it?
yes…i know there is a search button up here but i need help fast i don’t have time to search the solution and start reading hundred of posts.
Yes it does. And ironically by doing meditations every day to help open my third eye, my hearing of spirits gets better. Can’t explain that one 
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Here i hope this helps agiaint the curses
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