Can we Truly Become More Powerful than the Gods in this Lifetime?

Working with energies will never be as powerful as those who use spirits. Look at the likes of Michael Carbonaro, YIF and Dynamo, do you think they could have done it with energy work?

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Evocation isn’t a necessary practice. You can evolve and whatnot without spirits.

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You can but it takes longer and requires a lot more work.
What i think other people are trying to say is that working with spirits excellerates peoples ascent because the power spirits have is usually greater than the power we humans have. And its greater than the power gotten from energy work.
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Example?

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Example of what? Try it yourself.

“If you want something done right, do it yourself.”

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You don’t need to have a deity for everything.

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Lol

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He was asking for an example of ascending without the help of gods, goddesses, angels, demons, djinns…
I would have to say that a life long time spent under Buddhism would allow you to achieve nirvana or enlightenment. But it takes quite a long time but it can be done.

No you don’t need a deity for everything, but deities help you do a lot of things that you usually can’t do when you are working alone with spells and mediation.
Deities help out and have always been who humans have looked to for help and guidance… Look back in history, people have worshiped and prayed to gods and goddesses for help in their lives.

Q: Do you need spirits to help you ascend and therefore achieve Godhood?
A: No. But spirits are great at helping you ascend to Godhood and they themselves want you to do things on your own… Just look at Belial, Lucifer, Azazel, Asmodeus ect… They all help you evolve but they too want you to be like a god so you can do things on your own.

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Initiation Into Hermetics - Franz Bardon.

He built a whole system in which you need not focus on spirits at all if you don’t want. Also, the elements are very powerful energies. If you control them, you control the building blocks of creation. You can be very powerful indeed using just energy work. After all, light is a form of energy, and matter is just light slowed down. E = mc^2 and all that jazz.

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what do you mean 6 serpents? isnt the kundalini the only serpent

not possible to be gods . physical body cannot ascend to godhood. I think that’s common sense thinking. NO? If you were closer to being god you would be a higher spirit entity that is more closer to god and not a physical life form. Because we are in a physical life form, there are certain lessons we must learn in order to move up different planes. physical form is probably one of the lowest vibration plane so we are way far off from being gods. lol to think otherwise that it’s easy just says you need plenty more work on self.

I mean Gods are physical in their own plane :man_shrugging: but the idea of physically becoming Gods seems a bit far fetched, but I suppose many like to believe magick has no limits where we are.

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Have you not heard of DNA activation?

yes. i’ve heard of it in cartoons and anime where it belongs. not in reality. pretty common sense knowledge i would think.

if one believe they are god then one might even believe they can defy gravity with their own naked body. sarcasm by the way. don’t actually go try being superman.

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I would have to agree with Wisepup on this (surprisingly lol) but the concept of DNA activation is silly, DNA activation took off from the concept of junk dna which theoretically activating junk dna could possibly kill you as it’s things that have been made dormant through human evolution, such as diseases that humanity became immune to, among other things we evolved to no longer require.

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But people still get results with it.

define results. obviously they don’t turn to gods.

Personal Opinion:Races are pretty equal except they differ on versatility of elemantal principles but gods are gods because of their experiences of thousands of years.

So the answer is no.Even if you ascend, and my definition of ascension is to make your next life guaranteed, even if you become a god by race, answer is no.You lack the experience.One lifetime isn’t enough.Two isnt.Make it ten and we will talk.

By god do you mean, the influence they exert on other beings or spiritual power. I mean the fact that, they interact with us is proof that, we can Become as them… Or maybe not an exact copy since we are different type of beings… But at, least its definitive proof that we have something in us… A spark maybe