i gotta say it sounds lime you may be conflicted here if you feel you have to āwarnā others about exploring a possible solution. I am far from affluent in any way but if i am getting a product I budget for it all the same. Hell i am budgeting for some courses and a service right now from a different party that will total about 700. Why cause i think it will prove worth it in the long run and that the producer of the material has value cause i have gotten results from their work.
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You and me both. Letās make a pact, if one finds this fabled man weāll tell the other.
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Again it keeps sounding like your looking for a ā100% moneyback guaranteeā that the ritual will provide exactly what you asked for without fail. Thatās just not how magick works. This is not hollywood. I get this is a part of how society influences this mindset but it just isnāt how things work.
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If you think itās worth it, then itās cash well spent. It boils down to the fact I think his prices are steep and so I advised against paying for them.
For me, Iād say he was better value if you got a partial refund if there was no manifestation. Obviously the challenge here would be finding a way to prove there was no manifestation.
Again this comes back to looking for some kind of āguaranteeā the money is the exchange for service so the practioner has no emotional agenda in the working. This also helps rhe client as then the practioner can detach themselves from the working after it is done.
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Then his ritual should cost $200 (for time and supplies only), and the other $1,800 or so should be due IF there are results.
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You are forgeting the YEARS of experience you are paying for as part of the cost. That is like going to a contractor asking for a remodel job and telling them you will only pay the full amount if it lasts for 10 years. Good luck finding anyone who would take the work.
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E.A. is worth is his salt.
Iāve never experienced another magician that could drag me into their world just by watching a podcast of them seeing their black doorā¦which took me to other places.
And I havenāt even shared those experiences for the most part yet . I canāt image what powerful influence it would have on me if I actually went face to face with it and touched it with my fingers.
I think he does great work. And I would buy his work if I needed it. And I would recommend it.
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If he is as knowing and powerful as he claims, he will know if results took shape and form and would be correct to demand payment or issue a reversal or an undoing of the work, and possibly more as penalty for non-payment.
On the other hand, if his client had a way to prove they did not get results, as in showing they were still in the same position as before, and possibly providing documentation to attest to thatā¦they could make a case for requesting a refund.
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Which he actually encourages.
He wantās people to be pro-active and take magickal action themselves,
he does a whole lot to teach people in a way they can act by themselves.
Of course, there is things where he just shines.
One example would be empowering you into a direction youāre wanting to move towards, but feel fully blocked away from without outside intervention.
In terms of pricing, it haves to be acknowledged that it takes a lot of resources and energy to do what he does when working completely on the behalf of someone else, (the client hiring him).
Also, and i find this funny every time again:
When he works hired for a client, heās actually alturistic in a huge way, while he keeps focusing his statements on selfishness. 
^^
Sincerely,
Ā„āBerion
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Nope it isnāt.
But if you feel like he wouldnāt be capable of furfilling the task you have on mind, consider who you feel would fit the request better.
Thereās way more magicians then just E.A.
As well as several Systems to derive from. 
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And again you are looking for some kind of guarantee you are never gonna find in this line of work. If you did find it i would actually be more worried about not getting results.
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Meanwhile Iām going to do my own work using the COPIOUS free material BALG put out as well as my own studies and work, to keep advancing in magick.
My life has changed for the better through use of E.A.'s material, not to mention the more indefinable stuff like spirits contacting me through his videos, and I was no beginner to start with, in fact I was already very good at a wide range of things, even before I found this site. 
And, I donāt work for him, not on any payrolls, not hoping to be (I have my own things that I do) so I have no reason to state this and warmly commend his work, and recommend it to people.
You should really only be āwarningā & āadvisingā people if you actually booked him and got burned, which isnāt what has happened. $1000 isnāt, in fact, a lot of money (outside areas where the exchange rate fucks you up, at least).
And in the 4+ years Iāve been on this forum, I hear a lot of things and people come to me with various concerns, but I have never in that time has a single person complain they felt they didnāt get what they paid for from E.A. when hiring him, in fact Iāve been told he goes the extra mile on consultations, and many people book him again at a later date for bothā¦ repeat customers are the gold standard for reliability IMO.
Whatever, Iām not white-knighting him, just trying to stop some consensus/perception building up here that people need to be warned in some way, when you never booked him and plainly donāt intend to. Itās like me giving reviews of some cruise I never took, in countries with climates I probably donāt even like.
And as I said, there are NO practicing magicians out there that fit your requirement, of extreme wealth, land ownership, and who are hireable and give 100% solid guarantees of results or money back. You might as well warn people not to buy a Porsche, that theyāre shit cars and you wanr people gravely, because they donāt come with a āthis car can never crash or get a ticketā assurance.
Nothing exists that would attain the levels you have set, and are then scorning them (E.A. and Porsche) for, and it would be totally unrealistic to expect those things.
Same.
That would be weird magickal thuggery of the type some ATR soecialists go for, and their victims then run screaming to another ATR with slightly less of a bullying mindset to liberate them.
Magick offered for a set price and no involvement afterwards with the magician is surely saner and more civilised? Can;t believe this even needs saying!
if you pay and thatās it, done, you own the work - if the gates are left open you become at the behest of that person, which is fucked up.
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Itās not at all like going to a contractor for a remodeling job as the result IS the remodeling. Also, a legally binding contract precedes the work and enables either party to settle disputes before a judge or arbiter. You canāt use a real world scenario as a comparison for E.A.'s transactions. Thatās the safety of why magickal practitioners operate as they do with or without guarantees. Theyāre services are not enforceable.
āGood luck finding anyone who would take the work.ā Itās not necessary to say something you donāt really mean since you know there arenāt any in this field. The āpay after you see resultsā operators are charlatans, too.
Iāve looked and canāt find where all the success stories are of using E.A.'s service, Ritual for Hire.
I donāt hire magicians, never did, thatās how I amā¦ I always believed that the stronger magic is your magic. But If I ever decided to go that way, then be sure Iād pick E.A. hands down.
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For everyone who says there are no magickal guarantees, this should not be a sales pitch, then:
āRitual For Hire | E.A. Koetting
Let E.A. Koetting perform real magick for you, SO YOU GET REAL RESULTSā¦ā (Capitalized by me.)
Despite my objections to the way he phrases his 100% Guarantee to TRY to get results, I sill like his philosophies and approach to dark work.
Update: And I donāt have the impression E.A. Koetting is a con, either. I feel he truly believes in what heās doing. I just wish I could find many instances reported of where his Ritual for Hire work was successful for his clients.
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As you may have noticed, i encouraged you to look for more options, and make an actual decission where to go to.
I wounāt link Golden Dawn or Rosecruitian sites however, as first of all that would violate the terms of the forum as well as it being unneccessary since youāll come accross those anyways when looking for a different take onā¦
- well ya, what exactly is it even that you seek?
Sin,
Ā„āB
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Thatās a fair point, Iām certainly not a unbiased voice here.
I suppose I tend to compare the results spirits help us attain and the cost of working with them, and then compare them to the ritual services he provides. I can see how that isnāt really fair, but itās just how I think.
Some of his other stuff is very good; his evocation course is an excellent resource and I think is consultation prices are very good. You try and get a similar consultation in my field and it would cost considerably more, so I canāt argue there.
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Iām sure they are all great magicians. I think iād love to one day see just how powerful the spells for hire are, to inspire myself to become better. Iām waiting for some ritual supplies before I dive into my first course though. My friend suggested itās not having enough faith in myself to hire someone but honestly I just think itās really fascinating and interesting and I know thereās definitely something powerful to BALG.
I hope to explore many sorts of magickal systems in my life, and really see what they are all about so I can find my place in this world
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