Astral Projection vs Astral Travel

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I need help with understanding Astral Projection and Astral Travel. Is there really a difference and if so how? Also I have tried to get myself out of my body but I have some issues. The first issue that comes to mind is not being able to relax my body. When I try to get myself out of my body, it’s like… the best way to explain it is like constipation. In fact, that feeling of constipation is not just with my “astral body” but my energy in general. Can having too much physical energy be an issue?

Also, does anyone have the Scholomance book? I ask because I have done a ritual in the book twice and some things happened.

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Astral projection and astral travel are basically the same thing.

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Okay. Another issue I have been dealing with is the lack of results and I’m not sure what I am doing wrong since I am doing this solo.

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You and everybody else. This is hard to get full immersion so you forget your body and feel present in the astral. The only real advice that works is to keep trying and keep switching up the techniques until you make it. Even the best don’t get out of body every time. Most of the tie a guided meditation is enough.

You don’t need to astral travel though to get result in the real world, through any grimoire that you are drawn to: go with it, smile as that relaxes you and have fun.

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Do you know if N.D. Blackwood is active on this forum. I have his two books and are reading them.

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I see you posted in his last Q & A thread already. He hasn’t posted since June of 2024 so I think he’s probably more active when he releases a book.

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He is pretty active in his Instagram tho

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I too would love to learn how to astral travel, but I want to say some of the most profound visions and dreams I’ve had were real because that something was actually going on in the physical realm my visions and dreams were just letting me know it was going on somewhere. Could it be difficult to understand the difference of knowing what is Astral Travel and what is a vision or dream state where something is actually taking place?

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No in Astral Travel you’re awake and conscious. Lucid dreaming can be seen as deep astral travel, but you have less conscious control, in both you gain what the RVers call “site contact”.

The hard part is they’re both usually a mixture of things, dreams even more so, and unraveling which is which in the same scene is not easy. It’s a mix of memories, symbols, wishes, fears and analytical guesses, plus the underlying impressions… You have to be very aware of your inner workings, why you reach and think the way you do, and your connections, and it’s really best to not take anything at face value at all.

E.g. your dream of a parallel or past life scene, might contain items you own, or a person looks like a current actor - these are not your mind telling you that these things are as-is, it’s your subconscious saying “there’s an energy here that reminds me of this that you know in this life”. It’s trying to find ways to communicate to your conscious mind, it’s it’s tools are limited.

The usual technique in is them to write everything down regardless of how weird it is, and put to one side any guesses about what is what.
Afterwards go back and do the conscious mind analysis. You can compare all the impressions and make some conclusions.

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Thank you for explaining that. I need to say this because it’s wild, and I feel confident it wasn’t just a dream or an energy that was similar. These were messages being sent to me about something that either happened or was going to happen. And both were horrible.

The first was of two people engaging intimately, but I couldn’t see their faces; it was very dark, but I could sense that I knew who they were. Well, I realized later it was me and someone I grew up with. However, his father’s face was in the dream, and it was very clear and large. I couldn’t understand why, but later I realized it was because his father was the poison in the family, behind his son’s indecent behavior. That loser is dead now, so I don’t care, but I am grateful that a spirit warned me in my dream.

I truly believe Hekate was warning me of something that the person was going to try and hurt me. I recognized it in time. The second event felt like a dream, but I was being shown a man who was going to sacrifice a baby; I could see both of them, it was a glimpse, but I could feel in my dream what was going to happen. And many people are doing these sick acts.
It’s frustrating for me when this happens because I am powerless; I can’t do anything about it.

Many odd things have occurred in my life, and being a Capricorn, I am closest to the tree of life and death. I know this is going to sound crazy, but many times spirits spoke to me. The person who died tried to hurt me. I was so angry at his mother before he died, we argued, and the spirit could read my mind and literally said, Do not curse her because I was going to. So I listened, and soon after, Mike was dead, but it had nothing to do with me; it was his health.

I’ve had many experiences with spirit and parasitic energy; it’s really bad, but it can be banished. These spirits are real, and they feed off the living and especially off those who will die. It’s when they show up the most, or if people are fighting, the energy is negative is that things will happen.

I want to learn astral travel, it’s not easy, and in the city are too many distractions. Yeah, I can’t forget any of this stuff and I listen when spirit speaks.