Are YHWH and the Demiurge/Yaldabaoth two different beings?

Ok, great post…Makes sense. A better question I should have asked is why can’t a person who is working with the demons of the Qlippoth also work with YHWH or Michael or Rafael or any of the Arc Angels?

Let’s say there is a “mundane” person who is a Christian, and is sick; and I do some magick with a dark entity to heal that person. And at the same time, there are many other friends praying for YHWH to heal the person. Is it ok to pray to YHWH and also a dark entity to heal the person?

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Sure, but I’d wonder why they would choose only to work within such a tiny constricting paradigm. :thinking:

It’s like staying in the world’s classiest hotel with anything you want available from a team of specialist chefs, and insisting everything you order is based on eggs… I mean yeah maybe once or twice, but sooner or later a meal without eggs in would surely start to look damned appealing?

Even if that’s your ancestral heritage, there are other spirits out there who pre-date and transcend that worldview.

Depends how you define “dark” - as “malicious and evil” or “not in the Bible.” :thinking:

If the latter, pretty much anything except prayer is going against their beliefs for some people, if they’re Catholic or Orthodox the prison system releases considerably and you have saints & angels, and there’s always the option to check out of the whole problem and directly channel Love & healing energy yourself, and use direct magick.

Have you read The Kybalion? You might find it useful.

The Kybalion PDF, archived link (we don’t trade PDFs on here as a general rule but this one is okay, the text is out of copyright and the edition was given for download from the site that created it).

I’d feel weird asking an overtly “demonic” being to assist someone for whom I knew the idea of demons was anathema, it just seems disrespectful, like hiding meat in a vegetarian’s food and then being smug when they compliment you on your cooking.

While it might feel satisfying if the person is annoying enough, it attacks your own integrity more than it harms them. If you align your work with their values, you can be sure that you’re genuinely helping them, and not just point-scoring (not accusing you of that, just something I think is important when helping people with strongly-held religious beliefs). :smiley:

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Yes, the Kybalion is the first book I read over a year ago that got me started on studying the occult. I’m thinking I’ll get more out of it if I read it again though. Right now I’m re-reading the Bible of the Adversary again and Akhkharu Vampire Magick…I’ll read the Kybalion again.

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The Greek magickal papyri and a lot of Hindu prayer formats to this day will acclaim any god with whom the individual is working to try and attain a result, whether through ritual or devotion and prayer, as THE ultimate “God” (or the All, as the Kybalion calls it).

This supports the idea that the operator gives the spirit the initial power, and that the magician has the ability to call almost limitless power into a deity, and then ask them to use it according to their specific offices.

Taking it a step further, people will sometimes request to become the son of, or spouse of, that deity, and finally become the manifestation of their power linked to the All on earth.

I don’t really dig the whole vampire thing myself because parasitism has only been made cool by Hollywood manipulation, in the past people despised, pitied, and loathed vampires for the most part, maybe because (to summarise old lore) they have lost their connection to that ability to align with the All and can only feed from other manifest beings.

But if it’s a mask that appeals to you, you can probably use it to manipulate energy and vampirise sickness entities, or infuse energy into someone.

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Yes I agree with you. I’m just learning how psychic vampirism and life-force energy works to protect myself from feeders.

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Because many of the practices of psychic vampirism lack morals and ethics, right? And even if you don’t believe in Karma, it’s still good to learn how to attack back those who attempt to drain your own energy.

But I gotta be honest, that I have been spiritually envisioning myself shape-shifting into Tiamat and devouring my enemies.

I never had an issue with vampirism, I mean morals and such are personal issues, though I like that there’s a community of psi vampirism and donors. Albeit, cringy…it helps both parties since vampiric feeding can be beneficial to the “mundane” individual who believes but doesn’t practice as it has been known that in some cases if the psi vampyre knows how, they can clear a person’s stagnation and “open” their psychic channels simply by feeding on the individual.

So I suppose it’s however you look at it.

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Best summarized explanation of the religious system I’ve read so far :pray:t3::raised_hands:t3::ok_hand:t3::sparkles::clap:t3:

This is perhaps one of the greatest falsehoods I have ever seen. G-d is who you call by the Tetragrammaton, which is too holy for me to write. He is no monster- He who is the sole reason why my Jewish people have survived all that we have. All of our enemies have worshiped the Demiurge- who is called *Ba’al Ze’vuv, as you have butchered in the English. Yaldabaoth is just another name for Ba’al Ze\vuv- also known as The Satan (HaSatan).

I know this is ayear old but I heard that the jews actually worshiped baal/ molloch http://www.jewworldorder.org/moloch-the-jewish-god-of-child-sacrifice/

and that mosses told them not to. Im assuming mosses talked to YHVH?

So many contradicting things its hard to wrap your head around it

if thats true then from what Ive read Enlil is the piece of shit annunaki (not divine being but advanced alien being) who wiped out humanity with the flood because humans were too noisy when he wanted to sleep, and Enki his brother saved the human race by warning his followers (noah and friends) Enki actually liked the human race which he supposedly created so long ago.

I also read Enki may also be Lucifer? Curious to see what experienced practitioners believe on the subject?

I read somewhere here that Beelzebub was enlil

hmm so then what I read wouldnt make sense. Unless Beelzebub was the one that sent the massive flood. It was written thousands of years ago that Enlil was the one who did it

I think you are all missing the fact that if these beings exist in higher spheres they are “ran” by free will, and there is no evil jahve breaking laws and mushing conciousnesses…

treat every “deity” as singular being, dont mix different mythologies, or “timelines”

belzebub is going down like rest of his “brothers”

goddeses doesnt like hermaphrodites, not machine kindom, hail humanity, they all taste different, every human !

I personally believe this.

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I thought i read this on some of @Lady_Eva thread, idk

Definately. I was all freaked out about it for a long time.

Hello Robert, I hope you are doing well. I have something I need to ask you about Beelzebub but I was wondering if there is a way we can dm each other? I tried to dm you as first but I was unable to figure out how if it’s possible.