Anyone seen a genuine shapeshift?

during one of my 4 marriage evenings, she had hair all over her back. absolutely covered in fur. I could feel it. it was not something un managed. This was something un real. She was some kind of werewolf entity. But man

i’m seeing this sort of activity everyday. for years now. a lot of the time I was suspicious, upon using EA’s ancient words (particular; the banishing one that starts with ā€œASHTUā€) they cover their ears and run.

Some are more powerful, and return with even heavier weights. Im speaking in the sense of clearing certain zones they inhabit.

My strongest encounters have been with possessed people who then< under control of a spirit< can look different and even do outstanding things

We should at some point ask some magnificent entities… About how possible they do think that these genuine physical shapeshifts would be possible to achieve according to them…

I had a friend that claimed to have seen it, but he was a really good bullshitter so I can’t give them any credibility…

I’d like to learn how though. Like really how. I want to see what it’s like to be able to change at will.

Imagine a TOTAL sense of perspective? In which your (everyone’s) dreams, hopes, insecurities, loves, hates… all that put into perspective.

I can’t do it justice but imagine for a moment being every extreme of everything, so you’ve had it all fulfilled, and then seeing it all as noise, as options, as choices and almost, games… roles to play.[/quote]

Oh man. That has happened to me on shrooms and on a psilocybin and DMT derivative I once took. It’s different every time. It’s hard to get ahold of yourself sometimes. Once you do though it puts things into a while new light. For me, I become aware of my godself and it actually po possesses me in that state. When I make that transformation I feel more real, more vivid than when I’m sober. I once Yog Sothoth on a trip. Not many words were exchanged, but being there in that realm. The only sound and it was audible… was a strange kind of static. It made no sense, but from it I could somehow draw on the meaning of everything.

I think minor shape shifts are fairly common during invocation, as for full shapeshifts I’ve never sen one

i’ve seen people shapeshift by looking into their eyes. You can see things such as what spirits/demons they have invoked and made pacts with, and their past lives

Gazing into my eyes of a family member who has been involved with the Occult i could see their true form and a being of that was covered with hair.

i’ve always thought ā€œshape-shiftingā€ was a mindset. Berzerkers would invoke things such as werewolf energy via hypnosis to become skillful warriors which is interesting because this would imply that theres a scientific psychology link to this. (ie also. how the muscles only exert 10% of their power but can be used 100% such as the stories of mothers lifting vehicles to save their children)

[url=http://norse-mythology.org/gods-and-creatures/others/berserkers-and-other-shamanic-warriors/]http://norse-mythology.org/gods-and-creatures/others/berserkers-and-other-shamanic-warriors/[/url]

i’ll edit this comment if i find the video on the mirror-past life thing but in the mean time can i suggest a banner just for the shape shifting forum?

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I don’t think the software has that facility, it’s certainly not something a mod can fix, but I’ll mention it to Timothy next time we talk about the forum. :slight_smile:

I don’t think the software has that facility, it’s certainly not something a mod can fix, but I’ll mention it to Timothy next time we talk about the forum. :)[/quote]

You make it sound like you and Timothy are a married couple. =)

Full on physical shapeshift is most likely not possible. Thats a tremendius amount of energetic change. Going through something like that may even be painful as the mind awareness is having to maintain some sort of equilibrium or control while physical flesh and bone changes. Think about that.

lol!! The fights over the eyeliner would be epic… and two people with very strong opinions on typefaces should never try to live together. :o)

given that the human body is extremely complex consisting of a number of complex egregores i.e heart(circulatry system),brain(nervous system) etc…it would be real difficult to shapeshift if not killing the person theoritically.Most animal’s morphology and human morphology are just too complex and physically transmuting one life form to another is seriously tough.Transmuation of elements have been achieved ,but the physical body transmuation which have been claimed to be possible in yogic lore like trailanga swami and mahavatar babaji…but even though i am a hindu,i am still a doctor more…and after studying anatomy physiology and biochemisry i have become more and more disappointed with the possiblity of such occurences.
It was a childhood fascination for me to go to the himalayas and master the eight siddhis but now i grow more and more sceptical.
Astrally i have done shapeshifting a couple of times but physically dunno!!!

The Kali Yuga densens with every passing day, shade falls, and majesty drops away from the minds of men…

But lady eva tell me something if it were true …shapeshifting technology can be used instead of surgeries to heal a person ,grow organs etc…it would be fascinating indeed!hopefully stem cell therapy and nanotechnology will aid in shapeshifting!as for the magical techniques for shapeshifting i leave that to u to explore!

shapeshifting by moving matter wouldnt really work by this universes physics. Here’s how you have to think about it, there’s an immovable rock, you can’t physically move it. But the truth is there actually was no rock there at all, or maybe there was a tree instead. Your not changing things in a traditional sense but rather your changing an aspect of the reality your observing.

Castaneda…move the point of union and anything can happen into the Nagual…

You would be surprised what is actually out there. Anyone can do it in a dream or the astral, but doing it in the physical is something else. Yes Naguals do it. So do american Indians and a few other sorcerers from remote parts of the planet. Although Nagual is very much alive and active, just reading Castanedas books doesn’t entitle one to claim successorship to those lineages. The Indians/natives of the American southwest have secret societies that do shapeshifting. Good luck getting anyone to tell you about it though. Especially if your white. Not being racist that’s just a reality of that culture.

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I would start just focusing on lifting weights and see how you can sculpt your form by your own drive alone. That kind of stuff is cool but it’s considered sacred and has specific purposes when it’s done. In Mexico there are indigenous groups that do it as well (nahuatl is not the only sorcerous tradition from the land it’s just the only one that white English speaking people have caught a glimpse of purely because of castaneda) but those groups usually do it to guard sacred land as a sentinel.

[quote=ā€œastralreek, post:32, topic:2384ā€]given that the human body is extremely complex consisting of a number of complex egregores i.e heart(circulatry system),brain(nervous system) etc…it would be real difficult to shapeshift if not killing the person theoritically.Most animal’s morphology and human morphology are just too complex and physically transmuting one life form to another is seriously tough.Transmuation of elements have been achieved ,but the physical body transmuation which have been claimed to be possible in yogic lore like trailanga swami and mahavatar babaji…but even though i am a hindu,i am still a doctor more…and after studying anatomy physiology and biochemisry i have become more and more disappointed with the possiblity of such occurences.
It was a childhood fascination for me to go to the himalayas and master the eight siddhis but now i grow more and more sceptical.
Astrally i have done shapeshifting a couple of times but physically dunno!!![/quote]

Well,

If you want to find out for yourself if you’re really interested, and have developed your astral senses enough, summon Bael or Ose and tell them if shapeshifting is possible and to teach you. And as far as the siddhi’s go: have you worked on clearing and empowering and then awakening your chakras? If you haven’t, then you might want to try that(especially while being sexually celibate at the time while doing so, while working with one chakra at a time starting with the base and not moving forward until you feel comfortable and feel the chakra your working on as well as bliss within it. Then after your own experience, you determine if this is all real or not :slight_smile:

Also if dematerialization really is possible, whats to stop a master from forming his body differently instead of keeping his prior shape? Another way could be using ectoplasm like the mediums do, and forming it to your liking and then placing your consciousness within that created ectoplasm. this way it’s not just astral anymore but physical and able to be seen by others. You could also gain many siddhis by training in the Franz Bardon system of initiation into hermetics or any other serious magical training system out there, especially if you withold your sexual energy for the time while going thru the system to use the extra energy and vitality you have, to power your mental/astral abilities.

Just my 2 cents.

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Then why are into any magic at all? Because if magic was real, why can’t we just do a mass money spell and end global poverty? To me, it sounds like that’s where you are coming from.