An experiment of total failure and utter disappointment

Yeah, but the conclusion you came to in your original post is that the Goetia did something wrong/weren’t strong enough…hence why you asked this question:

What I’ve been telling you is that they did nothing wrong. The problem isn’t that you need something stronger than the Goetia. You used like 5 different spirits for something as simple as getting laid, and it didn’t work…even though most folks can get their sexual desires met simply by employing one spirit. I’m not sure where you got this idea that spilling a bunch of blood was going to open the floodgates and have women lined up at your hotel room door ready to get fucked. But what you don’t seem to get is that you’re doing the magick wrong. Pick one spirit, forget the blood-letting nonsense. That is something you do on special occasions as an offering to a spirit that you’ve built a relationship with over time. Its not something that you do because you think it will make the spirits work harder. After picking one spirit and doing the necessary subjective synthesis for that spirit, scale back your goals to more realistic levels. You aren’t Albus Dumbledore. Instead of trying to get a harem of women from the get-go, go for one random girl who meets your requirements and try to get laid with her. Scale up as you get more success with smaller goals. And lastly, ditch the hotel strategy. We have bars and clubs for such things. Go to places where the magick will have the least amount of resistance to actually work in your favor.

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Actually Verdo, along with many of the other members here, gave me the same advice, just worded slightly differently for my situation two years ago. I consider myself experienced, but not an expert and I was dealing with a VERY stressful and tough situation that involved my child and his father. Out of frustration and anger I threw every single baneful spirit at my son’s father and nothing worked. Verdo’s constructive advice was what snapped me back to reality, swallow my pride, admit what I was doing was wrong and go back to the drawing board. Needless to say, two years later me and my son’s father are thick as thieves now because of the advice I received here.

Good luck.

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So take this and add:

If you take my suggestion of breaking this up into the parts you need to develop, those aspects I mentioned: 1) attraction, 2) having value to women and 3) opportunity, and add 4) confidence or ‘the gift f the gab’, you could consider that layering.

So,

  1. as @Verdo said pick just one spirit for the attraction spell, but that has been done and I wouldn’t doubt or redo that working, leave it to bake.

  2. Consider what women want that makes them want a guy, which you’ve done physically, but you need more, as most women are not very shallow, they want a man of substance and quality. Whatever you do, never let them know it’s not personal, you’d shag any of them and they are a herd of deer where you don’t care which one you bag :joy:
    This is a massive turn off for women, they don’t want players, they want it to be personal, and men of quality don’t do this.
    So here, take a two layer approach: read books and learn how to be a gentleman, and call Berith to hide your flaws.

  3. You working for opportunity is done and sounds successful, so leave that alone, use the opportunities to practice. When you don’t know what to say, this is why pickup lines were invented. A lot of women don’t always like pickup likes, but make them funny and then say something like “I know it’s cheesy but I just wanted to get to know you.”
    Note: if she’s not remotely into you, it doesn’t matter what you say she’ll think it’s creepy, so get over that and say it anyway, and move on if it doesn’t land. If she likes you she’ll respond. Talk to her like you’re interested in her as a person. Compliment her style not her appearance etc.

  4. Confidence: look up on here there are a few posts about working with entities for social anxiety, try that out to relax and get less tongue tied.

It’s unlikely that they’d do what you want when they have your body anyway. Why should an entity be interested in random human women?
But this is also a skill you want to practice at home where you can get into trace and get it working reliably before randomly asking anything to posses you when you’re in normal public state of consciousness.

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I think this is a big part of the issue right here.

You still have to do the internal alchemy.

It won’t be some overnight thing where you wake up a completely different person.

You have patterns, habits, etc that need to be evaluated and overcome or resolved to get where you’re trying to go.

It’s like asking for a house to be built instantly

It sounds like you expect Hollywood magic :magic_wand: :sparkles:

giphy-5

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How to break out from that kind of negative cycle?

OMG, my input will not be useful here but I have to say reading Verdo’s very SANE answers to this debacle , I sit here laughing with tears falling on my cheeks.
Thank you for the laughs and thank you for your very intelligent approach to this case!

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I think you’re blocking yourself by being so desperate for sex. Your energy will scare women away even if you’re hot as hell.

Let me give you some examples of times my friends have gotten laid:

  1. Outdoor music festival in Germany. My friend randomly started talking to this girl because he was bored and couldn’t sleep. She was bored and couldn’t sleep either. She offered him a blowjob. He accepted. He didn’t see her again for the rest of the festival.

  2. Music festival in the USA. My other friend was waiting in line to buy merch. A girl started talking to him. Then she asked him to come back to her hotel room. They had sex and never saw each other again.

Neither of my friends are particularly attractive to me, but they were obviously attractive to these girls. No magick involved. They’re just friendly and interesting people who don’t act like women owe them sex. That’s how they get sex.

I’d work with an entity to get over your sense of self-pity and entitlement. Work on your conversation skills and treat women like they’re equal to you. You’ll get laid eventually.

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I hate to say it, but just have sex with anybody… once you do, it’ll profoundly change your energy.

I remember after I finally lost my virginity when I was in my teens. On the bus ride home, another girl basically threw herself at me.

Sex attracts more sex, I guarantee you.

Or if you want the first time to be “special” or what have you, then go to one of those strip clubs where they almost have sex with you… but not quite… like the ones in Montreal. Or one of those masturbation shacks in Montreal. Whatever the equivalent is in your area (or just fly to Montreal!)

Something to work out the “kinks” in your energy. Lol

It will change your energy profoundly. It’ll sort of automatically handle the backed up and excessive energy issues. At this point, your energy is probably like an ingrown toenail.

After you do the deed (or get very close), I would recommend Amiel from “Angels of Alchemy”, or “The Angels of Love”. Your choice. (Although I used the Angels of Alchemy method myself)

There’s a YouTube video where they say this angel is good for friendship… FRIENDship.

So I call this angel with the intention of depending a friendship with a new female friend of mine from Europe. I just loved talking to her about spiritual experiments. At that time, I didn’t have many friends who were into those things.

Then, within within a couple days, she told me I was her deep crush, and wanted to leave her boyfriend. A girl 2/3rds my age, that I viewed more as like a daughter or protege than anything. Yikes!! (And yes, I very much value platonic relationships, believe it or not)

That was fairly radical. Although I do have quite a few other tools in my belt for increasing attraction. It’s not that hard, per se. But “getting on the horse” is perhaps the easiest hack to getting on more of them! So that’s what I recommend for you if you’re hit 30 and still haven’t consummated.

There’s probably a lot of wound up, bound up and even bruised energy inside. Time to let it all out. Time for a change now.

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Fantastic answer

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