About Satan

Hi everyone !

I ve been reading occult books on theist satanism, including a very specific one.
Satanic enlightment , written by Magus cygnus atratus.
I wish I were brave enough to jump into the darkness. The content provides an amazing knowledge, but it scares me a lot , too.

Is fear a sign that the path is not for me ?
Or should I overcome this feeling in order to effectively perform the occult workings I felt attracted to ?

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I wouldn’t say it’sa sign. Maybe it’s just a fear of the unknown and not having enough information about any potential risks.

I usually find the best antidote to fear of the unknown is understanding and experience. Which sounds obvious but you don’t have to face it head on, you can chip away at it learning in small chunks that you’ll be ok.

I’d say continue researching, maybe dip your toe in the water with setting up basic protections like shields and how to banish, (see the spiritual hygiene collection thread) and then with some tools available to you then you know you’re not defenceless and can get into building experience from there.

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Thanks very much Mulberry !

Once again your answers help me a lot !!! I wish I had your knowledge and insights in the occult field!

Thanks for the time and the energy you take to improve my situation.

As you stated in your explanations, going "step by step " instead of rushing the process.

Which implies reading more to obtain a better comprehension of this kind of path. Tarot readings may add an intersting tool .

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Satanism is a path for children of despair, only those who have nothing to lose follow this path.
For someone born in darkness, hell seems a familiar reality.
Every person on earth has their own infernal chamber of torture, one on earth and one after death.

By gaining the right amount of power, a person is able to change their destiny and break the chains.
Such is its meaning. The path of pain.

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Was there anything in particular that bothered you? I’m not aware of anything scray in satanism. I’m not fond of religion but LeVeyan satanism is actually atheistic and more of a tongue in cheek “religion”.

It’s not the “path of pain” or only for people in despair, that’s just Christian weirdness from people who don’t understand it. There are many people practicing satanaism and similarly Luciferianism who are neither despairing or in pain so that generalization is uncalled for, and approaching a rule break here on generalizing about groups and preaching but @Satanalash is always like this and doesn’t go into full preach mode plus we love him so don’t mind it.

Maybe we can discuss the specifics and unpack them here? I’m sure they’re not that mysterious or scary really.

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Thanks a lot for taking the time to elaborate!

I do appreciate the wisdom from your own experience and every detail that I get from this forum ! All this knowledge is always golden ( for obvious reasons). Thanks !!!

If I understand your contribution correctly, the black path involves serious risks, despite its beauty.
As you must have figured out I m not in a state of " having nothing to lo se ") :wink:. Something that sounds familiar though is the loneliness in this . Is feeling akward and often rejected a clue that we should embrace that type of path ?
I m going to ask a stupid question again, but would it be possible to ad(d?)ress Satan first in order to know whever it s right for us , as magicians. Or do we have to take all the risks to contact him properly.
Sorry if my stupidity sucks.

No social awkwardness is not a sign of someone being a natural-born satanist. :slight_smile:

There’s no “should”, in the lhp, there’s no “destiny” there’s only what you WANT to do to help yourself, that’s the whole point. Freedom and individuality.

So this is your CHOICE. If you feel called that’s great and IF you WANT to answer that call/curiosity, you have every right to do so, and it doesn’t say anything bad about you.

A satan is an accuser, Jesus believed that the devil was actually ywhw, (see the red letters) making satan accusing him of being evil correct and just. So by many accounts satan is not evil at all but vilified by what is actually evil. It all depends on your philosophy. And what you believe is your choice.

(Yes, “address” has two ds.)

Yes, evoke satan and ask all the questions you like. I would say make sure you have your protections in place and know how to avoid impostors and get rid of unwanted entities. Doing magick of any kind lights you up on the astral and attracts curiosity, and not everything out there is friendly.

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You might like some of the content up at the channel of E.A. Koetting (one of the owners of this forum) as he got super into satanism and has a few videos speaking to satanic philosophies and rituals.

This one where he interviews Zeraphina about her views is quite nice. (ok clickbaity title but it’s a good discussion)

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I am connected to him and he renews himself to me just by thinking about him. I often meet him in my dreams.

For some reason I never ask him questions. Never. I have no questions for The Lord of Pain.

I don’t understand what is beautiful about the black art.

Suicide, nightmares, mental illness, depression. These are common things when working with demons.

Satan once said that his job is to squeeze the greatest potential out of a magician without mercy.

It is not like in your life will suddenly appear good jobs, friends and opportunities, ways of healing so that you reach the highest level in the most pleasant and healthy way for you.
You will be crushed by his iron fists without mercy. Such are the rules of their dimension.
This is their wisdom, the path of demons. This is their enlightenment based on what they know.

As I wrote earlier “Every man on earth has his own infernal torture chamber”.
This is our enlightenment from which the path begins.
Hell its not a symbol or mental construct its eternal true reality.

This is a hugely gross and unfair generalization.

It’s certainly not true if you take any time at all observing the posts on this forum, of which there are thousands on members.

The occult does attract some people with issues, that’s true, but there’s a huge difference between hallucinations and mental illness and occultic practice. One does not cause the other. The vast majority of those with mental illness are not occultists, and the vast majority of occultists are not struggling mentally.

Oh really - says who? And since when does any mage worth his salt let some mere entity tell him what to think and do. None of them.

Ok, I don’t agree with this, and I don’t believe in “the infernal” myself, you are free to go that way if you like, but I would caution against being too black pilled or nihilistic. It’s not really a helpful approach if you want to focus on improvement, to tar yourself the was Christians do as inherently bad or coming from a dark place.

In my view you are not “born o original sin” you are an amazing higher being incarnate into a human animal, and it’s worth acting like it not throwing that way.

Hell is other people. Other people invented a mind trap and you fell into it. They did that to control you, now there are many many hells, they are location in the astral you choose to place yourself in for emotional reasons.

Hell is a dumb concept and exemplifies everything wrong with the stupidity of people in large groups.

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I am not an evangelist, I don’t care about people’s faith or disbelief.
Either way, Satanism is not something you would want for your children or loved ones.

I think that’s a very assumptive over-generalization.

First of all, it’s not up to you to tell people what they do or do what want. That kind of authoritarianism is exactly what satanism is against.

Secondly, you’re not a satanist so why are you trying to speak for satanists? There’s many flavours of satanism and you have no idea which ones work for people or not.

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To simply claim “satanism is always bad” across the board is now preaching and attacking a names group, which are noth against the rules here.
Please refrain from doing that on this forum. We don’t Christian-bash and we don’t bash people following other paths either. You can discuss the merits or demerits of specific ideas but DO NOT simply claim all people are bad in a given philosophy.

Attacking ALL Satanists as “not something you’d want for x” is unreasonable and flouting this rule. Please be more specific about your personal issues with the concepts but do not attack entire groups of people just because you don’t agree with their religion.

Further posts making statement like this will be removed without notice.

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So, I am not a satanist myself, I avoid all religions, but I approve of the individualism and emphasis on personal responsibility. It’s up to the individual how they practice, (criminal cults aside) there’s nothing about any given religion that automatically makes someone bad, unwanted, ill or evil.

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By beautiful I was thinking about our potential, as hulan beings. A hidden gem we may be unaware of…

As human beings, sorry.

Once again Thanks for this!!

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Thanks a lot for elucidating my topic on satanism !!

I will work on the ptotection aspects you mentionned , to avoid special guests :wink:.

I read the book on satan e a koetting wrote,but the fear of the consequences prevented me from performing the rituals…

It s fine if Satan helps me before a proper dark initiation.
:wink:

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This is that book?
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The Aim of this Great Work is to propagate the exaltation of thy own Most High, and to empower a unique and personal evolution in liberating thyself from the shackles of thine own enslavement; to integrate thy shadow; to unify the fragmented; and to encourage a sincere and authentic humble aspiration towards, Satanic Enlightenment.

Alistair Crowley also called it the Great Work. It’s not dark or light, this is no less than becoming a living god through connection with your own inner divine. Nobody is getting used, abused or hurt so I don’t see any real darkness in that, other than for aesthetic reasons because it sounds cool.

Doing the shadow work is the scariest part because there’s memories that are sometimes painful to process, but its worth having that understanding of your self and how you tick and you become a better person for it. :slight_smile:

Ask and you shall receive. You are already getting assistance because you are a seeker, if you throw out your questions to the universe, satan, however you want to call that, you get the answers back in sometimes surprising places. There’s a point where this is all window dressing, whether you call it angels, demons, kundalini, enlightenment, all roads lead to Rome.

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Yes this is the book I was talking about!

Thanks for all Mulberry !!!

For the beauty of your message about seeking, for your immense patience towards me!

The fact that I m not an English native and how it affects my writings, but as stated before I m keep learning.
:wink:

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excuse me There is nothing dispairing about me although I was completely at a loss to understand why anyone would want to be with that spent rubbish of christianity.pray to that twat you get nothing. Talk to Satan on a one to one and he helps me with everything I need and thankfully doesn’t just give it like a spoiled child he makes me work for it or earn it.
unlike the angelic mob when i was using them they were not adversed to stealing on my behalf
when i asked for help. Christianity can fuck it’s self I prefer to live a more peaceful and pleasent life
with the help of a proper God who wants me to be the best I can.not a dumbed down vegetable of a person who blindly follows what everyone else has told them to believe.Happy magick.

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