Your Personal Experience Evoking the 9 Goetic Kings

[Biosynth]

Doesnt matter what people called him back then. Heres a little knowledge regarding my method.

• I am utilizing symbolic association.
• I am generating my own magickal charge regarding the issue. So a “Peter” referrence actually works out fantastically. This would be especially the caze that when I do decide to generate such a magickal charge (where I do not need times/dates/bloodmoons or locations as I have my own secret methods…not really zecret just advanced)
• nownkeeping this in mind in the world of magick the sexual aspect is very powerful as everyone must partake of it in some way kf they want powerful physical results. In terms of raw power, a christian will never rival a powerful and organized occultist… As 1 within the “pattern” of overall Judeo-Xian thinking Sex is considered sinful and a whole other can of worms. Doesnt matter if you are a christian and think differently…by partaking of the energy field of christianity you are only disempowering yourself in the physical world. That is why I work with Belial as he renounces all that crap and is the strongest in working with Earthly Forces if you know how to more fully tap into his power. So knowing this… By making referrence to “Peter” in the bible (biblical association disempowers) as being slang for “Penis” i have effectively reversed the Symbolic Perspective to show how ridiculous the bible is and that Belial will basically fuck all Biblical Entities in the Northern Sphere (Material Manifestation) as his bitches as he fucks them all as women, completely taking ovdr material manifestation. Belial is the top Devil Dog, as “God” is the reverse of Dog and hence would Portray the Non-Material. All Dogs love a woman who is deserving to take care of their special needs (which is the caze sexually), so a proper “pairing” must be in order for masculine and feminine energies. One can see this symbolized in thr movie Jupiter Rising as the Princess has her werewolf Devil Dog.
  -Not to get side tracked… One uses Logic and symbology in Magick backed by power from that foundation. Belial cares not what people thought back then regarding Peter as he has bedn successfully ruling the throne for many years now as shown in the world last I checked…meaning the true symbolic azsociation manifesting is not Peters of the Bible… But rather Belials “Peter Schlong” which is giving birth to and controlling humanity. The answer and question is perhaps the people you do not like have already brat you to that becauze you wdre too nice and did not receive and put to use Belials lesson early enough. This is actually what he told me regarding alot of people on this forum and othsr forums elzewhere.

[Salpinx]

Ok, question about Kings Paimon and Belial.

King Paimon, from what I understand so far, can bestow status and dignity - a dream come true for social climbers and people who want to rise up in political, social, or commercial ranks.

King Belial can help you master your earthly kingdom, show you how to be prosperous while you’re still on this planet, and teach you how to have all the stuff that there is to enjoy on this earth.

But in this mortal world, don’t both of these go hand in hand? That is, if you have access to everything there is to enjoy on earth, you must have high rank and status in this world. Likewise, if you don’t have high rank or status in the world, then you don’t have access to all that earthly pleasure and no mastery of your earthly plane.

Is it safe to say then that King Paimon can teach you what King Belial can also teach you, and King Belial can teach what King Paimon also teaches?

[Arcane]

[quote=“Salpinx, post:22, topic:6325”]Ok, question about Kings Paimon and Belial.

King Paimon, from what I understand so far, can bestow status and dignity - a dream come true for social climbers and people who want to rise up in political, social, or commercial ranks.

King Belial can help you master your earthly kingdom, show you how to be prosperous while you’re still on this planet, and teach you how to have all the stuff that there is to enjoy on this earth.

But in this mortal world, don’t both of these go hand in hand? That is, if you have access to everything there is to enjoy on earth, you must have high rank and status in this world. Likewise, if you don’t have high rank or status in the world, then you don’t have access to all that earthly pleasure and no mastery of your earthly plane.

Is it safe to say then that King Paimon can teach you what King Belial can also teach you, and King Belial can teach what King Paimon also teaches?[/quote]

Hey there!Sorry for not getting to you earlier,been busy.

I would say that no.The two are highly intertwined,but in my experience,there are differences to King Belial and King Paimon.FIrst of all,we’ll look at the things that they teach at their most primal level.

At his base,Belial is the lord of lies,king of no kings,master of self-governance,and what he helps you is to become a king in this world of beggars.King Belial is associated with the element of earth,and the flesh.He can bring you pleasures,and teach you ancient secrets,but his forte is anything that is on this Earth and that will help you make your mark here.Along with that,Belial is the king of the carnal,the forbidden,the taboo,the lewd,the opulent,anything really that lets you enjoy this world.

And he’s good,at manipulating situations.He gets a reputation of being good at controlling authority figures,and he most certainly is,but I like to call on him when I need a situation,a crisis averted or the likes.

Now,there’s this lovely article on evoking King Paimon,that you may be interested in:

https://serpentslabyrinth.wordpress.com/2015/06/17/how-to-demons-paimon/

So,I’ll just quote the part that defines what he does.

''As mentioned above, Paimon specializes in teaching arts, sciences, and philosophy. If you are a craftsperson or artisan by trade, Paimon can be a hugely helpful ally to have. If you are studying one of the sciences in school, likewise. It’s been my experience that how demons “teach” can vary. Not all demons will sit you down and give you a lecture where they explain the theory of gravity or how to write a sonnet or cook meth (the last is a joke, guys), but some will. When I was working more actively with Eligos, sometimes he would give me direct inspiration and insights (“why don’t you write about such-and-such?”) and sometimes he’d do what I can only describe as “facilitating” or “serving as a psychic battery”, where he’d sit near me quietly drinking tea while I was writing, and his presence helped direct and focus the flow of creative energy. So Paimon might help by giving instruction, or he might just sit with you while you work on something and you find you can think better or do the thing better.

“he can reveal all mysteries of the Earth, wind and water, what the mind is, and everything the conjurer wants to know” – Paimon is good at elemental magick (or teaching elemental magick), energy work (teaching thereof), and can help with things like prophecy, or helping the one invoking him to develop their own psychic mind.

“gives good familiars, dignities and confirms them, binds men to the conjurer’s will.” – This is “familiar” in the witchcraft sense (but not always a physical animal – this can be an astral animal who serves as what the Northern Trad people would call a “fetch” or a “fylgja”, who can assist with astral travel, remote viewing, etc) but can also be seen as “bringing the right people into your life at the right time”. “Confirming dignities” means he can help you improve your lot in life, for example your socioeconomic position; he can also help with things like working on a degree, or a career advancement. “Binds men to the conjurer’s will” means yes, he can get people to be nice to you, leave you alone, etc. From an ethical standpoint I’m very against the concept of forcing people to love you and that sort of thing, so I don’t recommend calling on him for this purpose, but Paimon can help make life easier in terms of playing with others.

Once you’ve declared your purpose, Paimon will show up.‘’

So,you can see how that stuff differs from Belial,as Paimon will control the people involved.

There are rich people who aren’t super-famous.And there are famous people who barely have enough money for rent.So,the two are related,yes,but working with one,won’t bring you the benefits that both could bring you,and if you enter a pact with Belial,get everything he can give you,call up Paimon,he’s not gonna say:‘‘I have nothing to teach you,everything I can do your friend Belial can as well’’

[Salpinx]

Thanks as always Arcane for the enlightenment.

This is a great article that you linked - and it confirmed an UPG for me that King Paimon likes tea. Your separate mentions of him liking rosemary, and your water spells with him, inspired me to make a royal Chinese tea with added rosemary. He loved it - which was completely unexpected, because I had pegged him for an expensive wine kind of demon.

Your article’s blog also mentions that internal politics will put you on a demon’s shitlist if you’re in good with a demon that the first demon dislikes. I ask you and all readers: have you found this to be true in your experience? Is this going to be a problem for someone like me who intends to work with all 9 of the kings in the long term?

[Arcane]

[quote=“Salpinx, post:24, topic:6325”]Thanks as always Arcane for the enlightenment.

This is a great article that you linked - and it confirmed an UPG for me that King Paimon likes tea. Your separate mentions of him liking rosemary, and your water spells with him, inspired me to make a royal Chinese tea with added rosemary. He loved it - which was completely unexpected, because I had pegged him for an expensive wine kind of demon.

Your article’s blog also mentions that internal politics will put you on a demon’s shitlist if you’re in good with a demon that the first demon dislikes. I ask you and all readers: have you found this to be true in your experience? Is this going to be a problem for someone like me who intends to work with all 9 of the kings in the long term?[/quote]

He emphasized that it was UPG,and it fit his UPG,but not mine.Mine was that I’m the king of hell,and they’re all fighting to get on my good side. Because I’m a super vain guy.

But some of the stuff in his UPG is confirmed in my UPG.LIKE,Paimon bringing me purple flowers.

[Lady_Eva]

@Salpinx

Your article’s blog also mentions that internal politics will put you on a demon’s shitlist if you’re in good with a demon that the first demon dislikes. I ask you and all readers: have you found this to be true in your experience? Is this going to be a problem for someone like me who intends to work with all 9 of the kings in the long term?

I worked with those 9 in sequence as part of the preparation for my demonic Child, they seemed to accept this (and that I was energetically “pregnant” by one of them at the time) without any problem, in fact they seemed to want to see me.

So that’s not been my personal experience, but then the work I did (if I can even call it that) was bloody strange anyway…

I found I kind of “clicked” with some more than others, that may change for me with time, and may be an undesirable limitation - I tend to relate to all spirits as distinct beings and not as “currents of energy” or anything, so my reactions to them are similarly personal and may differ from other people’s experiences.