Working with the talas chakras

Hello everyone.

So while studying and investigating on chakras from the perspective of the LHP, I came across with 7 other chakras I didnt know about. First, I will introduce these chakras, then I will show you my personal theory and open debate, and at last, I will leave a petition here, for whoever is reading this, that if you have more info about this topic, please share it here or by private message, as there is very little info on this topic because it is a very dangerous practice (to open and work with the talas), yet im willing to take the risk for this kind of info as I strongly believe if you work on the talas and succeed to transform energies like fear, sadness, inferiority, jealousy, feelings of murder urgencies, etc. into energy that is on your concious control, you will find yourself ready to enter to THAUMIEL or at least very close to it.

Basic info about the talas (which is everywhere you find, its just a mere description, it doesnt show how to work with them):

link of the info: Patala Chakras

another link of the info: https://www.insightstate.com/spirituality/seven-lower-chakras-lower-body/

My theory:

Ok, so I dont have a very solid theory about how to work with the talas but I have made conections between ideas which can help us get closer to how we can work the talas.

(i have to say english is not my first language so i apologise if you dont get something, so you can freely ask me anything you didnt understand).

Alright, so the talas are not bad, actually anything is good or bad, I believe most people on this forum know that as I have been reading. So the talas arent bad at all, but, most asurely, if you correspond to the right hand path they may destroy your life. These energy centers are charged with very powerful energy we may consider negative, although, it may bring negative results if its misguided. For example, serial killers as Ted Bundy have a need to torture, and kill for the sake of killing. This energy directly corresponds with the tala chakra, which I believe he indeed had opened although bringing terrible results for his live and improvement. But for example, hinduism talks about patala, which is located at the sole of the feet, and says that its the last hell and below it there are the ancient waters in which the ancient snake lies. So I connected this idea with the fact that there actual info that states that one way of becoming a lycantrope (wereworlf) is to drink WATER from its footprint, just like invoking the ancient waters below its patala. Also, i believe the werewolf is a manifestation of all the energies of the talas, so the astral energy that creates the werewolf´s power is the talas energies, jelousy, fear, hate, rage, excesive wish to kill, etc.

Also, while investigating the talas, I found many similarities: the talas are below the muladara chakra (root), so these means the talas MAY be roots too. The Qlifot is all about the roots in comparison to the sefirot.

Moreover, the path of the talas, compared to the path of each Qlifot is very similar (these would mean that Thaumiel could be strongly associated with patala and having control of all the talas). The first Qlifots talk about lust, then they associate “negative” emotions and states of the being such as “abandoned”, “no hope” which involve these feelings. So I think its not a coincidence that the talas begin with Atala on the hips, which it also has to do with lust, just as the first Qlifots, and the Atala “world” it is said to be home of succubus, and sex demons just as the first Qlifots.

And the similarities go on and on. So this would mean that a path to thaumiel is working with the talas in conjunction with the Qlifot. In my opinion, this could make the path much less “abstract” as the whole path relies in your body.

So this is why I consider the talas extremly important if you are on the LHP. If you have the info on how to work with them, put it here and if you dont want it to be public, please send me a message or at least share the book, order, web page, that showed you how to work with them. Thankyou to everyone, I hope I expressed myself at a understandable and kind level.

PD: forgive my terrible english

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I can’t believe what i’m reading, i’m so happy someone is also discovering this incredibly vital piece to awakening godhood. a few facts:

  1. when i tried sharing the tala information on semi-public servers on discord and other places like telegram, i was extremely attacked by demons and also the website itself take off global dns for at least several weeks to a month. this let me know the tala cakra information is absolutely vital.

  2. in collaborating with an indian yogi a few years ago we discovered quite a few things about the cakra that would indicate exactly how to work with them but i haven’t gone deeper into it past the research discovered we made.

A list our discoveries:

  1. more references here:
    a. Tala Chakras - Tibetan Buddhist Encyclopedia
    b. (redacted due to restrictions)
    c. (this is ancient shaivite text with i believe holds the true information before the resets, the descriptions of the tala cakras don’t include evil at all) https://ia902806.us.archive.org/26/items/AgamaAcademyBooks/Agama%20Academy/Agamam%20-Moolam/KiranAgama%20Part-I%20Translation%20by%20Dr%20Sabharathnam.pdf

  2. The secrets of the tala cakras seem to be hidden in their NAME. Here my notes:


  1. kala-agni-rudra residence
  • “bottom of macrocosm”
  • kalagni rudra at center surrounded by deities
    – measurement of kalagni blaze below
  • upper side is lotus; lower side is ananta(endless)
  • isvara, pingala, kaala, krodhesa, jalada, bala, dhanda, sankara - 8 rudras
    – each rudra surrounded by a crore(10,000,000) rudras
  • hridaya of paramsiva (“8 drops of the heart” <> 8 rudras of hridaya of paramsiva)
  1. narakas (height each plane 1 lakh of yojanas)
    – 32 nirakas(124 altogether) - entire plane 90 lakhs of yojanas space
    – ~32 lakhs of yojanas in height??
    – mentions “our narak” is in one of the octads/directions of narak indicating multi-dimension “pie-portions”

  2. niralamba - (30,000 yojanas height)

  3. kusmanda - 9 lakhs of yojanas height

  • surrounded by (rudras & ladies) beauty and “vigour”
  1. 7 patalas pagoda starts here @ “abasa”
  • (this is also where “human realm” begins in buddhist canon)
  • each patala with 3 layers/sections and 3 types of beings (danava/naga/asura)
  • ruled by hatha-ka-isvara

5a. abasa - jambunada(gold)

  • each patala consists of 3 layers with 3 kinds of beings
  • consists of danavas, nagas(middle), rakshasas(upper)
  • hathakesvara controls the patalas (at the highest level above rasatala)
  • nature of jambunadha gold
  1. patala(?) - (ruby)
  • lower section surrounded ladies of “their own group”(naga etc)
  • middle section chief nagas “dreadful”/endowed with wealth
  1. vitala - (sapphire)
  • everlasting vigour & enjoyments
  • rakshas upper plate, enjoyments ladies etc
  1. sutala - (topaz)
  • (Free from opposites (heat/cold) “immortals”)
  • rakshas here live pain free from opposites
  1. mahatala - (silver)
  • proud nagas in the middle realm
  • mighty danavas
  1. talatala(?)(diamond) this region name was obscured(talala according to other texts)
  • 10th “pope/crown” tarot realm?
  • wealth, nectarine food & drink
  1. rasatala
  • gardens, arches, gold ramparts, nectarine food & ladies;
  • spirit liquor
  • bali (once stopped by hari) is danava of lower section
  • taksaka naga of mid
  • rohitaksha asura of top
  • 8 lakhs of yojanas height
  • hathakesvara ten lakhs above
  • mansion of hathakesvara = gold & diamond
  • "Violently breaks down all the worlds under his control(patalas?) at end of yuga he is called hathaka
  1. bhu-loka - lower to higher planet realm(s) - ki/all planets?
  • above patala-loka and called “hinder side of the planet(realm)”
  • 2 crores & 88 lakhs of yojanas
  • 7 dirpas/dvipas/continents
  • of which jambu is “ours”(one out of 7)
  • this would indicate that this might be talking about what we would consider “the galaxy”
    12a. jambudvipa has 9 divisions with one lakh of yojanas extension
    12b. the peaks of mount meru actual manifest colors based on the guna deities. gold = brahma/ silver = vishnu / diamond = sankara/ishvara
  • “immortals” live here(directly below this) as well
    12c. horizontally on all sides from the centre of bhu-loka to cosmic wall fifty crores of yojanas
  1. bhuv-loka

  2. suva-loka

  3. maha-loka

  4. jana-loka
    – the jhanas, while related to the realms above satya-loka; are said to bring souls to these higher realms as well.
    – jhanas are said to be used like “tools” to attain (true)vidya along with merit and other things.

  5. tapa-loka

  6. satya-loka (14th realm in buddhist canon, right below purelands/brahma-realms)

  7. brahma-loka “world of brahma” above satyaloka
    – 3 crores of yojanas

  8. vishnu-loka “world of vishnu” above brahma realms
    – 3 crores of yojanas

  9. hara-loka “world of hara” above vishnu realms
    – 4 crores of yojanas
    – from bhu-loka to hara-loka 50 crores of yojanas
    – pritvhi-mandala considered 14 layer egg from patala to satya

…(there are much more above this, find info on kirana agama for more)


So not only are all these considered “terrestrial heavens” but it seems as if they simply represent the wealth of the planet in general, which if fantasy lore and nordic myth is to believed was corrupted long ago by what essentially amounts to hyperdimensional aliens.

Rasa in the carak samhita(yogic ayurveda bible (redacted due to restrictions)) is considered “sap”, “juice”, “essence”, “taste, flavor”, “delight”, “charm,” and “sentiment,” etc. so we are looking at the “function” of the cakra, not it’s corrupt conscious output.

So this is where our research ended, however with innerstanding one can easily see where it leads. the lower realms are our power, and purifying/elevating/strengthening the roots of our being is in the way forward to progress. I post this in good faith at amazement another seeker had the fortitude and good will to share his research and thus do the same for all who find it in obscurity. Wholeness within

Hari OM Tat Sat

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