Same as you, you have no proof to back your claim…
Imaginary cause you can’t see them, with a naked eye or even a telescope, you ll just see an alignment of stars looking reminding you of certains animals and men named them according to what they were seeing and this is not an opinion it’s a fact.
Yeah, you do you, bro. I won’t burst your little fantasy bubble 
You’re not getting it, human thinking 
There is literally proof in the body. That reflects the macrocosm in your body, as above so below. But I don’t think youre at that bandwidth of understanding this. You still differentiate between material and immaterial, which means you’re state of perception isn’t reliable but go ahead believe what you want, not everybody is supposed to tap into those powers
The bull is a sign of strength, vitality, and determination. That’s my guess.
Oh so you re that kind of guy… that makes a lot of sense now.
I know about the macro and microcosm but you were talking about giving proof As long as it’s about Spirituality, no tangible and verified proof can be presented cause what you see is not what others see. Everyone has his own reality until Saturn comes in and breaks the wonderland dreams… and of course I ll always différenciate the material and non material, I must know what I can or can’t do in different realms if not what don’t you just fall from the top of a building and ask the macrocosm to save you?
Yeah I’m that kinda guy… humans do not know much at all, which is a fair claim. It seems you don’t see the indifference between material and immaterial concepts, they are only different due to human perception. When you unlock your astral touch. It’s just as tangible as the physical and these are real spheres and realms that have their own angels and Gods.
The fact you’re looking for physical proof instead of your own journeyworking indicates you’re tapping into magick on a mundane level. Your belief systems are not helping your ascent, but that’s your responsibility, if you don’t want to understand out of your prideful nature I understand, but know that you haven’t provided anything more than an opinion that doesn’t really have much of a base for a counter argument- respectfully
I astral travel regularly for your information since I was 17 so I pretty know the difference and it’s not out of pride.
Great then there shouldn’t be a problem for you to understand this right, I mean otherwise you’d be gaslighting your own experience because astral travel isn’t “tangible” and there’s no “physical evidence” to your travel… you see, self contradiction- humans do this a lot due to genetically inherited cognitive dissonance, im giving you the chance to recognize the pattern because I was there once myself. You have to catch it to overcome it, otherwise you won’t be able to have solid arguments without contradicting your own point, and I’m not saying that to insult you, I’m just saying it because you’ve made it very apparent.
My point is not everything should be amalgamated for the sake of spirituality. Physical have also its principles, its evolution for billions of years too and is independently related to other realm although the realms are interconnected but Not everything spiritual should explain the physical realm.
Everything begins on an energy level… I can’t believe I actually have to explain that lol, this should be common knowledge by now
And who denied that everything does begin on energy level? Why are you making up your own statement ?
I said each realm have its own principles, there is what you can do in astral travel but not in this physical world, is this difficult to understand this? Is the notion of time and space the same in astral and physical plane?…. That’s what am talking about having independent principles but interconnected
That’s why I gave you a mundane example if you get hit by a car then you got broken bones, are you get healed only in astral ? You ll go to the physical doctor for treatment too cause as long as you ll have a physical body, physical principles will also be applied to you no matter how many ritual you do! We as human are lucky cause we experience things in not only one dimension
I don’t think you’re aware of how physical functions are directly manifest from spirit
Yes I agree with you but you may also agree that spirit/magic cannot do everything for you
Yes it absolutely can, again you’re thinking like a human magician. What do you think the point of mind over matter is… one of many siddhis when you activate 12 strand DNA is that nothing becomes beyond your mind, we have the power to manifest everything from the mind, this is a fallen world that is why it is currently not compatible with those abilities but as humans ascend and activate this DNA within the collective and planetary consciousness many things will that were once impossible will become posssible, you’re just limiting your own magick. I’ve personally done things that would contradict most peoples beliefs but seeing that you’re into more tangible stuff there’s no point in getting into that
I guess we won’t agree today…
But this is a deja vu for me, this conversation we having. I just noticed it with your precedent message
Hallo, can you please tell me more about this?
in someone’s life Saturn is always going to rule some aspect of their life, it will depend on their position in the birth chart. The position where saturn is represents the deficiencies we had accumulated in our previous lives and he wants us to get rid of them. Saturn hates laziness, lack of discipline and commitment. he wants you to become the master of your own life and for that he will restrict the resources of the aspect of your life that he manages until you understand that it is neither God, nor faith, nor dreams, neither your family, nor your friends who will help you solve your problems but only yourself have the power. and one thing i love about him is that he loves destroying the lies we tell ourselves. if you say that you are the strongest magician, to test you he will put even more talented magicians in your way as enemies and when you will not be able to destroy him, that is where he will make you understand that was all empty talk. but he does not do this for fun but rather to protect you. Saturn protects and it can do it in different ways: by fear, by the lack of something. for example if saturn is in the 1st house he can make you skinny and sickly when growing up but later that person will pay attention to everything he eats if it’s healthy or not or go to the gym to build up a fit body to avoid the illnesses he had as a child. unlike Jupiter who in the 1st house will make you healthy but with time it will make you gain a lot of wait because if Saturn restrict, Jupiter Expands. that’s way it is better to associate these two
wow, this is what I feel so far. That was all saturn.
thank you for your information, I will dig in alot about this
Cool my bro, and sorry for some grammar mistakes