I’d chime in, but I think E.A.'s answer from Azazel hit the nail on the head:
I Ask Azazel: Are You Real? He Answers.
I got an analogous response from Belial: What’s real, but what you perceive? We always were, and always will be. We are the formless void of creation itself, existing outside and inside of all things. We exist in all cultures, yet each perceives and uses us differently.
Timothy also has an awesome computer related analogy I like to use:
[quote author=Timothy link=topic=552.msg7994#msg7994 date=1351240699]
[quote=“RedIce, post:1, topic:552”]Several months ago, E.A. and I discussed this exact topic in extensive detail, and we both agreed on our shared conclusion that the angel/demon/god classes of evocable spirits are summarily forms of interactive software stored inside the computer hard drive of digital existence.
(A much-needed transition from the ancient superstitious-religious paradigm to the modern scientific-secular-technological paradigm)
They are artificial intelligence programs, in a sense.
They don’t “exist” in an objective manifest state until you boot/load/call up their presence. Exactly like a a website on the internet, it does not appear/exist/manifest on your computer screen until you visit the site through the protocol of a web browser (summing ritual).
And like a mobile app, or PC software, or website, these hard-coded spirits EXIST to SERVE US.
This totally debunks the ludicrous notion that we’re “exploiting” the spirits. It’s not like they are biological beings, with limited, physical, economic resources, and we’re exhausting their time and energy, taking them away from performing other productive activities.
This model also satisfactorily explains why thousands of magicians can evoke the same entity simultaneously and all get magick results… it clarifies why spirits are above temporal and geographic restrictions.
…Because, again, like a website, thousands of people can visit it at the same time, and it’ll still appear functionally on everyone’s computer screen.
So, to allege that summoning and contracting spirits is an “assault” on them, is tantamount to claiming that surfing the internet is an assault on websites.
It’s asinine, paranoid, obsolete, superstitious, and fallacious.
Wrapping up, not only do you NEED to perform evocation to be a well-rounded, fully operant magician… but if you abstain from it, you’re WASTING free gifts from the universe that exist solely to encourage and assist your own Ascent to Godhood.
In the end, those idiotic pseudo-magicians you quoted are opposed to evocation, because they are TERRIFIED of it, due to their own ignorance and incompetence.
And it’s pathetic.
Now, I’m going back to work on Mastering Divination, so it’s ready for all of you by Halloween.[/quote]
Sum it up?