Unique lessons that can be learned from each elemental king

What unique lessons or skills can one you learn from working with each elemental king? Also on a side note if any of of you have worked with each king, what does each king think of the other, do they like, hate, or tolerate each other?

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Nichsah - King of Water : to direct a greater amount of emotion into a ritual. If you exhaust an emotion in ritual, you exhaust your desire for an outcome. Can’t lust for a result if your desire is all used up. Great stuff.

Djinn - King of Fire : using fire to burn away undesired attachments. Easy to do, hard to master. Great when you apply it consistently.

Paralda - King of Air : improved memorization. It felt like flying through books. (I can’t comment more, as when I worked with Paralda I was lazy and didn’t apply myself.)

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Pretty amazing, wonder if you worked with any Earth kings?

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I like being honest. It’s nice to not carry the burden of trying to be a super dark perfect magician. And lol, I excluded Ghob on purpose. (King of the Earth).

When I worked with them, I was heavily air/fire. Meaning, I would be super passionate about a matter for a short amount of time. When I tried to work with Ghob, I could feel him looking away in disinterest. :joy: That’s my experience with Ghob.

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I wonder if that’s how they view each other? With complete disinterest or indifference since they each represent different things.

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Great question. I haven’t asked them, so I can’t speak for them. However, I think what I shared was due more to my temperament at the time. The Kings seemed far more user/beginner friendly than other spirits.

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Yes I feel they will be able to teach you solid foundation of knowledge that you can later use to do the things that only the Daemons, Angels, and Gods can teach. However I think it’s also possible to just work with them exclusively since there knowledge seems to be quite in depth. I wonder if it’s possible to gain familiars from them like you can with other spirits?

My experience is with the book Lucifer and the Hidden Demons, so my views are largely based on summoning the Demon Kings Lucifer (Air), Shahtan aka Satan (Fire), Belial (Earth), and Leviathan (Water). I’ll say a bit about each spirit, but you’ll only really know if you summon them yourself and see what happens.

Lucifer, King of Air, is the ruling demon. The other three Kings all fall in willingly beside Lucifer. Air is often associated with reason and the intellect, and Lucifer is also associated with time as well as awareness. Lucifer can help you come to understand how reality is composed of various states of being, and how reality flows from one state to another, what causes it to flow one way or the other, and helps you see with a clear objectivity, unmuddled by emotion.

Shahtan, King of Fire, is associated with psychic and magickal abilities. Fire is often described as the power of magick being active or in motion. Shahtan can help you improve your psychic and magickal abilities, strengthening your imagination and bringing power to your rituals. Fire is often associated with passion - too much fire and the flame consumes itself, causing burnout, not enough and it shrinks and diminishes. Shahtan can help you learn to perceive how much fire is appropriate at any given time, and when the state of something has changed so that more fire can be accommodated.

Belial, King of Earth, is associated with stability and instability. Earth is the most solid, stuck-together element. Earth can create rigidity and resistance to change. A solid foundation of Earth can maintain important structures. Too much Earth can cause brittleness, so that only a slight pressure is required to shatter the entire structure. Consider how skyscrapers are built on solid foundations, yet allowed to sway and be somewhat loose. Earth can both strengthen a thing and cause it to rapidly be destroyed.

Leviathan, King of Water, is associated with chaos. While Air moves about freely and is therefore the most chaotic, Water has a heaviness to it that makes the chaos more tangible. Water is often associated with emotions, negative and positive. A deluge may bring wave upon wave of delight, or a great storm of destructive rage. Water may erode a situation, gradually, pulling away at the solidness of something until one day you see that what was once a great mountain is now a flattened plain. Or it may be less extreme, eroding only enough to allow for fluidity and adaptability, thereby preventing an oversaturation of Earth and bringing strength to a structure. Water is also what nourishes and provides life.

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I have never heard of those kings but I am familiar with those Daemons. When I said Elemental Kings though I meant Paralda, Djinn, Nichsah, Ghob and assumed they were the only ones. Maybe there’s more then one set of elemental kings.

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The Elements work differently in each realm (usually) so each realm has their own Elemental Kings. For the Elements in the Infernal, that would be the Demonic Kings that @shinri mentioned (Well, it is debated of course). So the effects they bring are not the same as the Elemental Kings of the Elements in our world can bring. To get insight into how these work in each realm, if you can project then you can do so by simply observing how they interact there.

Otherwise, simply observe how those spirits work. The Elements in the Infernal tend to have a more destructive and transformative quality to them, and some of those spirits are known to be extremely destructive and transformative.

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I didn’t know that. Is there book that you recommend that shows you how to get in touch with the infernal elemental kings like there are for the Earthly Elemental Kings?

Not that I’m aware of. You can simply evoke them however.

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