Translations

Does anyone know the direct translation for a few things

A: Alash tad Al’ash tal ashtu

B: the Nabatean Around the Universal Circle

(i know these both ive actually heard EA say them both but i forget :S anyways if anyone could give these to me that would be great)

i know the universal circle is something like give an offering to his house to devour …something about Samael lol and than binding the name of god for 700 years i forget the exact translation

(Edit:B: - Give an offering to his house to devour

  • Which the eye, the house is with Samael
  • Seven Hundred Years to bind the name of god in chains
    Found this one on EA’s Video about the universal Circle Still wonder which set of symbols is saying what though…Hmm)

It’s in the YouTube vid my friend. The most recent one with Nat Bales. regarding The Universal Circle.

Thanks man i just found it as i posted lol but thank you anyways :slight_smile:

P.S.,

I believe one reads the Grand Incantation of “Alash tad Al’ash tal Ashtu” starting at the top, then, going clock-wise (to the R) as you are facing the Universal Circle/or atop of it depending on where one actual is in regards to the darn thing!!!

I believe E.A. addresses this as well in BofA (Book of Azazel) too? Which I have a copy of, but, at the moment do not really feel like getting and going through…'cause I’m in the middle of cleaning my damn house, logging onto BALG, AND drinking water…

…ah yes…the life of an aspiring Black Magickian :slight_smile:

P.S.,

If you truly can’t find which direction to read it in…just post it here and I’ll get the proper info for you

Kind regards,

M

Is that ‘eye, the house’ or ‘eye of the house’ ?

“Give an offering to His house, to devour,
Which the eye, the house, is with Sammael.
700 years to bind the name of God in chains.”

The first phrase begins with the “lambda” looking symbol.
The second phrase begins with the sideways looking F.
The third phrase beings with the small line and long line running vertical.

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Thanks so much EA :slight_smile:

Now…anyone know the translation of the other …or is there no translation and im just crazy lol

Is there any english translation for “Alash tad Al’ash tal ashtu”???

I thought the Alash tad…translated into the “Give an offering…”

I could be mistaken but I thought the Grand Invocation was what was written around the circle.

You’re just crazy. “Alash…” IS the Nabataean around the Universal Circle/Gateway of Pacts.

LMAOOO okay this actually makes Alot of sense thanks guys this helps alot

totally zoned he specifically says this in several sources lmao -_- facepalms

azrael I wonder what you might find from this, as when I’ve been in a situation where a subject-issue keeps grabbing my attention, and yet I don’t-get-it for some reason (not just miss it, and let it go- as it keep arising for me to struggle with); when I discover (“doh”) what I was missing, it seems so obvious and yet it seems there is a second layer about to be ReVealed.

In other words- if you “keep with” what ever this energy-behind-the-curtain is (that sense of an idea, just out of reach- what I feel is the trick in “activating” a sigil, or just Contacting an Other, to bring near- not the “trance” its that Sensing-Connection before directly Perceiving… that just off the screen sense).

If you reside with that, there may a be Key there (which may then open a section inside you)… ok all a bit metaphor-sounding, just a sense that hit me as I read these comments.

(I was working earlier this year, though I haven't been recently, with each of these "characters"- singly as if "Sigils" and in a group (thus 3 different groups- like a compound-sigil, or sort of like part of a Sq- but not seen as letters, but as Energetic-gates/sigil-signatures)    -I hadn't seen any comment by others about that, not sure if any also Worked with them that way)

I know this is an older post BUT I just had to put this out there for anyone else interested in this subject.
If you study the symbols and compare them to ancient Egyptian script, you’ll find some interesting results… or at least it seems to me. Most of them can be translated into Hieratic script and Demotic script. While looking into this one should also look into the evolution of these scripts from hieroglyphics.

I read the script from outside the circle looking in. Starting the the hourglass shape section then moving on around the circle clockwise… each section is its own sentence. I read them from right to left as I believe one would read Aramaic…

(Word) (word) (door bolt/ locked door) (walk / run) (crossroads)
-I take this as something about traveling to the crossroad beyond the locked door

(Word) (talk) (in/among) (fallen, defeated) (god(s)?)
this one I think is self explanatory BUT the last word did not look like a direct exact script to god. the dot threw me off but it looked as though the script came from the same root so I can only assume it’s god like or spirit? I did not find a direct script for “spirit”. I could be wrong But it fits…

(His) (praise/worship) (word) (house) (thoth?/deity?)
I read this to be his house of worship/praise… the last word looked like it could be thoth or deity though I did find the hieroglyphics for both I have not yet found any direct script… and the comma or apostrophe I’m not sure of either.

This language is hard because the meanings of the script can and do change with context.

Anyway, just thought I’d put that observation out there…
Give it a go guys and see what you can find

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[quote=“E.A., post:6, topic:1714”]“Give an offering to His house, to devour,
Which the eye, the house, is with Sammael.
700 years to bind the name of God in chains.”

The first phrase begins with the “lambda” looking symbol.
The second phrase begins with the sideways looking F.
The third phrase beings with the small line and long line running vertical.[/quote]
Really it makes me wonder what does it mean by “Which the eye, the house, is with Sammael” I mean what exactly is the eye and in what it refers to? Anyway just got curious for the past month that incantation always comes up to my mind but I dont get anything when I chant it except from energy shiftings. Still could be just me :3

My theory is it’s the same usage as “Pharoah” as in "The term pharaoh ultimately was derived from a compound word… written with the two biliteral hieroglyphs … “house” and … “column.” That’s from wikipedia.

The eye could - COULD - represent the observer, the Source, that which is “back of and behind” all that exists, all that has conscious awareness. And spirits use funny phrasing sometimes, very literal and yet obscure.

So maybe the house is the manifest aspect, the power and presence, and individuation, and the eye is the underlying spirit (maybe there’s also a link to pre-masonic ideas about an eye in a compass with a square, but that’s a whole other topic).

That’s this week’s possible theory anyway :o) but I can’t say I’ve ever asked any spirits, yet.

Oh and I was told by a familiar spirit that the script on the UC blocks the “clockwork mechanism” (probablistic outcomes that would occur under natural law) and also - this bit is important - the will/observation of all other demonic and human beings from affecting work done using one.

I was told it really is as good as claimed (no way not to make that sound slightly rude to E.A., but not my intent!) and I was advised to use a small version as a manifestation base for some work, so I used the “seal of the sorceror” artwork artwork I posted here for that, I mean to make a larger one in black and red card when I have time.

My theory is it’s the same usage as “Pharoah” as in "The term pharaoh ultimately was derived from a compound word… written with the two biliteral hieroglyphs … “house” and … “column.” That’s from wikipedia.

The eye could - COULD - represent the observer, the Source, that which is “back of and behind” all that exists, all that has conscious awareness. And spirits use funny phrasing sometimes, very literal and yet obscure.

So maybe the house is the manifest aspect, the power and presence, and individuation, and the eye is the underlying spirit (maybe there’s also a link to pre-masonic ideas about an eye in a compass with a square, but that’s a whole other topic).

That’s this week’s possible theory anyway :o) but I can’t say I’ve ever asked any spirits, yet.

Oh and I was told by a familiar spirit that the script on the UC blocks the “clockwork mechanism” (probablistic outcomes that would occur under natural law) and also - this bit is important - the will/observation of all other demonic and human beings from affecting work done using one.

I was told it really is as good as claimed (no way not to make that sound slightly rude to E.A., but not my intent!) and I was advised to use a small version as a manifestation base for some work, so I used the “seal of the sorceror” artwork artwork I posted here for that, I mean to make a larger one in black and red card when I have time.[/quote]
I see thanks for the reply Lady Eva, as always! I thought that would be the case too but still something is bugging me. You see I have not purchased the UC but when I tried to evoke a spirit from the works of Mr.Koetting I drew the circle on my own and I wrote the script with my blood on the floor.

I can say that I didnt even had the chance to enter TGS and the circle resonated with me and filled my room with a heavy sinfull yet serene presence of power. I was evoking Estalistu,(Iam not sure even now that I evoke anyway) and almost in flash I heard his voice in me.

I had prepared a form with questions beforehand for him about alchemy and he answered to me pretty easily that was my first claircognisense experience and from that point on I could communicate like that with anything using UC script. Anyway my point is it always felt that the letters were speaking to me calling me in some way yet Iam still not able to clear what exactly is that calling. Now that Iam looking at the translation I get strong feelings towards Sammael as I had when I was still a child.

That’s just cool - share when you can, if you can, please? :slight_smile:

I was drawn to certain spirits when I was a kid,and they’re right here with me to this day, which is so bloody amazing…

Ohh I have to go post in the Music thread!!

I will surelly post about it :smiley: Iam also gonna post something that happened to me just a couple of mins ago while watching section 14 of Mastering Evocation! :smiley: