To enn or not to enn

[Dinmiatus]

I use um as a focus mantra mostly for the goetic evocations and invocations i have done worked out pretty well.

[Xag_darklight]

cool i will use it too.some times my focus can fuck up the rite lol

[Woodsman81]

@dollarvaluemenu

That’s weird. I work with the good King quite a bit and have never had him tell me that.

No, I will say that not all spirits react well to enns. Depends on the user mostly, though. In other words, the enn might translate to something not in context for use by @blezheng. It works fine for me, but I still prefer a more personalized statement.

[dollarvaluemenu]

Fair enough. I guess just like anything, it comes down to the user. What works for some does not always work for others. That’s what makes magick great. There is really no right or wrong answer.

[blezheng]

Actually me too

[blezheng]

Me too actually. I prefer telling them for example “King Paimon come to me, your Highness” than an enn.

[AdamThoth]

I just visualize the sigil and whammo! I’m in contact.

[blezheng]

Me too. You will even feel their presence after that. Or even just stare at their pic with their sigil.

[R_K]

Teach me?

[blezheng]

I subconsciously chanted Azazel’s enn mentally and he told me that he has no problem with it because my intention was to call upon him and not disrespect him. Maybe it does depend upon the spirit. King Paimon doesn’t like it but King Azazel doesn’t seem to care about it.

[AdamThoth]

Get in line. Just kidding send me a pm some time and we can get you the help you need. In the mean time. Try my original void meditation and try and see if it doesn’t help get you started.

Psychic Development for the Magician

I decided to go ahead and cut and paste some of my psychic development methods in it’s own thread as to not have to keep sending it via individual PM. I will start this off with the Original Void meditation. It’s what I have developed it to be the best sort of universal meditation to get you in the “zone” from where one can astral travel, spirit eavesdropping and many other activities one needs to be in a theta state. Binaural beats can be used to enhance the meditative state. This is it, thou…

[thestrangescientist]

@blezheng

King Paimon hates his enn and told me “my child don’t do that anymore okay”

Do you know of other Goetic demons that hate their enns as well?

On a related note, where do enns come from?

[DarkestKnight]

If you read this thread, I already posted about their origin.

[thestrangescientist]

Oops, yes, missed that one. Very interesting; I remember first reading about them in a book by S. Connolly (sp?), so I suppose I’m not entirely surprised.

If you don’t use enns, may I ask what incantations (if any) you do use during evocation, such as the fourth in EA Koetting’s 4 Incantations?

[DarkestKnight]

I personally use the Summoning of All Magical Powers conjuration to power myself up before ritual, but I don’t always use it. I would say I only use it around 30% of the time. I have also used the “Alash tad a’lash tal ashtu” chant when evoking Azazel or his Nethers, but, again, I don’t always use it when evoking them.

I have used the Conjuration to Summon Forth once or twice but didn’t really get anything from it, mainly because I haven’t committed it to memory so reading it would pull me out of trance.

[Vasilisa]

I was literally just wondering about this and decided to search …

Something crossed my Facebook feed… A person said that enns were first mentioned in S Connolly’s work, and they theorized that she wrote them.

Hence they meant no disrespect, but were basically saying they aren’t necessary but if they work for you they work and that’s great.

[DarkestKnight]

@DarkestKnight

Enns come from the practice of demonolatry, which is the worship of demons. They are of recent origin, making their first appearance in the literature around the 1960’s, I believe, so they are not “traditional” in any way as @Akashiel

I was wrong here. I reread Baneful Magick and according to EA in that book, enns were first recorded by a man named Alexander Willits, a demonaltor, who received them from the demons he worked with, roughly around the same time as Dee and Kelly were discovering the Enochian language, so they are not of recent origin as I originally said.

[Vasilisa]

Thank you for searching. I was curious if that person was right about Connolly and it would have taken me waaayyy longer to hunt that down than it probably took you

[Keighn]

Are you from the Satan & Sons website/youtube channel? The mention of 108 and your avatar seems familiar. (And kewl beans on the enns there but I still think Uvall is missing).

[Keighn]

@Xag_darklight

when i dont know (or too bored to find)an enn i use this "kama kala kama kala (N) and repeat it.

Reminds me of some sort of oriental spirit. (And no not DBZ which reminds me of a Hawaiian spirit)

There’s some inks to enns on various sites including listings Goetia and Dukante (I’d of thought there would be more). There are pronunciation guides and videos.

I believe there is a difference from
mind thinking them
to whispering them
to saying them
to calling them
to singing them
And to vibrating them

On a side note I haven’t seen a spreadsheet of the listed beings and their enns. I know once could be constructed where there is a list of the enns or parts used to see which beings also use that part (ie “an ca”)

Some I see have an emphasis on capital (or it’s a mistake in typing… “An Ca” instead of “an ca”). Yeah, I’ve though about wring up one just to see which parts of the enns are used more. (I should also note whether Goetia or Dukante or other).

As to meaning, I read different things from no meaning or language to some deciphering.

The spirit in question would be best to go to for the call it prefers from the individual.