The Psychology Of Black Magick

It’s all about perspective. I have seen folks who wield a great deal of power on here gripe about things that, for their power level, is far beneath what they should worry about. I don’t necessarily buy the idea of living a magical double-life… who the hell would you need to hide from? I’m not saying be gaudy, but there is a narrowness sometimes with magick that it hardly evolves to it’s potential, way beyond the ideas of dominating economy or having to build an “empire”. Money is something that should easily clapped about beyond the need for worry, but again, folks with huge amounts of power find themselves still trapped within the parameters of struggles that those without that power have.

So we can then see a great deal of black magick afforded to curses that are far beneath that power, immensely contradictory morals (i.e. I don’t don’t condone stealing money, but I will rob a grave in a heartbeat), and it boils down to folks with power not having the personal character that matches that power. I’m not saying being some pseudo-Christ, but the use of Baneful workings against others for none other than personal dislike, or even perceived harm (usually from those supposed “sheeple” who do not possess magical skill)… that’s just little and is honestly too rampant for a persona with any real power to spend their time or power on.

I find that, sadly, this overly narrowed focus on the idea of “self” is often a breeding house for more fear than empowerment. Again, this is what happens when character does not match power, and so you got situations where people are just plain lames when it comes to this shit, and act as if we have even scratched the surface of power yet. The tendency to become overly impressed and arrogant because you could summon sales in magic stems from this, and this is why magicians still strive with the "sheeple"concerns, because they haven’t developed their personal character beyond those ideals. It is also why it’s laughable when folks use delineating terms like that… “unwashed masses”, “sheeple”… can’t even realize that even with that power, we haven’t really evolved beyond their concerns. We wouldn’t even need these terms, and yet they pop up around magicians all the time, both “black” and “white”.

So yea, the arrogance and overly-aggrandized feelings and attitudes of self-accomplishment really is getting old, and by it’s nature is fake because the reality of things exist whether people are willing to acknowledge what they are doing or not.

It is strange but for me the blackest, darkest, most vile beings I have worked with have (in their own way) guided me to become more compassionate and loving. It is the same for all of my.years of martial arts training. Sure I can kill a guy with my bare hands but I am less likely to ever get into a fight (a good jui jitsu match on the other hand is fun as all Hell). The darknest entiy I ever came across taught me a lot about baneful magic and he is the reason I go out of my way NOT to curse people. Sometimes it is just not worth it.

But at the end black magic is what you make of it.

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There is a saying that "those who know how to use a knife are less likely to use it."
That makes some sense. When we know how to do something, understanding the consequences, then we are prone (most of us) to think twice before doing it.

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[quote=“defectron, post:11, topic:191”]Very interesting article, I consider myself grey rather then black though. Funny thing despite that most of the stuff in the appendix applies to me.

One point though, is I believe our government actually is run by black magicians, this is why Homeland security will watch famous black magicians, most likely they see them as potential threats to their power. Someday when I am strong enough I will break their knee caps with a sledge hammer so that they can no longer walk all over everyone. But until that day comes I suppose I’ll just have to wait and get stronger, and develope my powers until I am so powerfult hat they won’t know what hit them.

Also the point about superheros and black magicians being enemies is a myth, it was recently revealed to me that part of my path will be something like a majick superhero, though some things I do could also be considered a bit villainous so I suppose I must be one of those anti heros like, Spawn, Venom or the Punisher rather then superman.[/quote]

I am Gray too! I feel more comfortable in the middle than going all White or Black magic.

G

[quote=“Albany, post:38, topic:191”]This assessment of the psychology of the archetypal black magician left me a little cold. From my point of view an individual with a complete obsession with their own personal power, points of view and self advancement is an extremely boring person. They don’t give, they don’t share, they cant cope with normal human relationships, they live in a little bubble of self interest. So what if they cavort with some of the most powerful demons - as human beings they are cold selfish and charmless. People like that may have spirit pals but they die really lonely.

Give me a person who is sociable, kind, generous and giving, who has concept of society, family and his duty to help make all of those a better and kinder place. Give me a man who can sire and FATHER children as well as be a fabulous husband because he has the social skills to maintain successful long term relationships. He is the truly powerful man. Combine that with a work ethic to improve himself and his magical ability - and an iron will to defend all that he loves and believes in - that kind of person I warm to.

The psychology of the black magician just comes across as a sulky selfish teenager who has yet to develop as a fully warm and giving human being. They just come across as mean and stunted a bit like the Nazis with all their obsession with natural selection and the biggest bully being the most successful in evolutionary terms.

I think there is a balance in life and no one is an island unto themselves. If people start getting all obsessed with themselves and their personal advancement and forget that we are social beings with duties to one another, then we lose something in the process, no matter how “successful” we consider ourselves to be in magical terms.[/quote]

I feel the same way! It put a strange vibe out. It felt like one needs to be a hermit and be against everyone and everything out there. I think one can become a God and still function in this society.

E.A. is not truly black as he thinks I sense that from him. I believe there is alot of white magic in him and as some have stated “One needs balance to become a God”.

Just my 2 cents from a newbie!

G

" A devoted sorcerer sees himself at the top of the food chain in nature. And if he is not literally the most powerful being in existence yet, he knows he will be inevitably, because he’s totally committed to realizing it."

Where religion tries to engrain otherwise, this is a truth of uttermost importance. Thank you.

Excellent post Timothy and if this represents a black magi then I fully embrace this philosophy . Consent of all parties is the key to getting what we want here , for true and real freedom. I believe this is what we came here for … to be the most we can be as what would be called the fully functioning being. Fully sentient , alive , real , strong , brave , vigilant and a law creator that creates the necessary words and signs for a clear path to a secured goal.
Deconditioning and deprogramming goes a long way for this to be realised.

Most slaves believe they are free… this is the first trap.

[quote=“Godesslives, post:45, topic:191”][quote=“Albany, post:38, topic:191”]This assessment of the psychology of the archetypal black magician left me a little cold. From my point of view an individual with a complete obsession with their own personal power, points of view and self advancement is an extremely boring person. They don’t give, they don’t share, they cant cope with normal human relationships, they live in a little bubble of self interest. So what if they cavort with some of the most powerful demons - as human beings they are cold selfish and charmless. People like that may have spirit pals but they die really lonely.

Give me a person who is sociable, kind, generous and giving, who has concept of society, family and his duty to help make all of those a better and kinder place. Give me a man who can sire and FATHER children as well as be a fabulous husband because he has the social skills to maintain successful long term relationships. He is the truly powerful man. Combine that with a work ethic to improve himself and his magical ability - and an iron will to defend all that he loves and believes in - that kind of person I warm to.

The psychology of the black magician just comes across as a sulky selfish teenager who has yet to develop as a fully warm and giving human being. They just come across as mean and stunted a bit like the Nazis with all their obsession with natural selection and the biggest bully being the most successful in evolutionary terms.

I think there is a balance in life and no one is an island unto themselves. If people start getting all obsessed with themselves and their personal advancement and forget that we are social beings with duties to one another, then we lose something in the process, no matter how “successful” we consider ourselves to be in magical terms.[/quote]

I feel the same way! It put a strange vibe out. It felt like one needs to be a hermit and be against everyone and everything out there. I think one can become a God and still function in this society.

E.A. is not truly black as he thinks I sense that from him. I believe there is alot of white magic in him and as some have stated “One needs balance to become a God”.

Just my 2 cents from a newbie!

G[/quote]

yes…newbie but not in magick, in cosmogoy for sure…
Despite of I have my disagreement with Timothy approach to the topic in many points, all the “qualities of human” described here are just the “point of happines or comfort” of the person that wrote that.

talk in terms like " E A is not so black as he thinks" and at the same time taking the Timothy approach as an absolute doctrine in black magick, both are far to be a standard.

when you reach a certain level of comprenhension of how it works, how the system of reality works and its functions, and the approach to the misteries things begins to change and perspectives changes too

using the kabbalah/qliphot paradigm, in both trees theres one thing in common : the middle pillar. So you dont need to be an asshole to become a god, far from it, you need to be what ur inner nature talks with no regards to the God hat controls the "points of comfort, search for power is a matter of temperament, not a matter of if you are a nice person, or a good father mother son, these are implicit and personal preferences if you wish. Theres not such thing as “leave ur family behind to become a god” and theres no such thing as “if you dont have a family u cannot be a god”…and so on…

so…?

Some parts I resonate with, some I don’t.

I will be branded a lunatic, a terrorist, a man of great evil by our society, because I know what I want, my hunger is great and I know how short life is and want to spend it to the max.

I value my allies, friends, lovers, etc.
I don’t want a dead, desolate world, I hate corruption, and that which is detrimental to our species survival and for our planet.

Our world is a wicked place, full of ignorant people and people with only greed and self-interest in heart.

I hate them the same way a predator hates another predator, I have a vision for myself, for people and for the world, and I know I need true power to make that vision come true.

All must be balanced, a kind hand must be offered at first, and if rejected, the armoured fist must take its place.

There is a major flaw in the path of the Black Magician, and that is ignoring true human prowess.

Mankind can do anything, one day stars may be made and slain by our power.
All our cities, technology, all that comes from Mankind working together to achieve a common goal for a common cause.

Some people may follow sociopaths, yes, but these people will scatter like leaves when the winds of conflict travel through the world.

Power is an interesting concept, it comes in many shapes and colours.

If people want to play anarchist, pretend to be “free”, then sure.
But predators who hunt in pack…they tend to be very deadly.

I don’t say “give up individuality”, but balance must be found for any real power to be achieved.

I have a question. Wouldn’t it be good to at some extent want to help others? After all, we’re all helping each other on our ascent to Godhood, and let’s say someone is having hard luck supporting his family. Wouldn’t it be a good thing to use a luck spell on him, or provide him and his family with some assistance with survival until things get better? The whole point of becoming a living God is to be able to manifest reality in any way we see fit, right? Wouldn’t that include any desires to help ease the suffering going on in the world? After all, what worth is a God if he does nothing for his people?

I do think I get your core message though. Instead of spending all of one’s time helping others, they should focus mainly on helping themselves, and anything else would come 2nd after helping oneself, unless it was in their or their loved ones best interests to make it a priority. Once we ascend, then we’re in a better position to do whatever we want, whether it be for our own goals, or for helping others.

Edit: Nevermind, I’m drunk, I stumbled into the Left Hand board and didn’t realize I was still posting in it xD

[quote=“Alarich Valstella, post:49, topic:191”]Some parts I resonate with, some I don’t.

I will be branded a lunatic, a terrorist, a man of great evil by our society, because I know what I want, my hunger is great and I know how short life is and want to spend it to the max.

I value my allies, friends, lovers, etc.
I don’t want a dead, desolate world, I hate corruption, and that which is detrimental to our species survival and for our planet.

Our world is a wicked place, full of ignorant people and people with only greed and self-interest in heart.

I hate them the same way a predator hates another predator, I have a vision for myself, for people and for the world, and I know I need true power to make that vision come true.

All must be balanced, a kind hand must be offered at first, and if rejected, the armoured fist must take its place.

There is a major flaw in the path of the Black Magician, and that is ignoring true human prowess.

Mankind can do anything, one day stars may be made and slain by our power.
All our cities, technology, all that comes from Mankind working together to achieve a common goal for a common cause.

Some people may follow sociopaths, yes, but these people will scatter like leaves when the winds of conflict travel through the world.

Power is an interesting concept, it comes in many shapes and colours.

If people want to play anarchist, pretend to be “free”, then sure.
But predators who hunt in pack…they tend to be very deadly.

I don’t say “give up individuality”, but balance must be found for any real power to be achieved.[/quote]

I fully agree. Humans are group animals, we evolved from primates which were group animals as well. We can do great things with allies, although I think the point he was trying to make is to not let some authority stop you, because they have no business trying stop you in the first place. They fear our power, because they cannot control our power, and when we are well on our paths, we can no longer be exploited by the weak minded individuals who call themselves the “elites”.

[quote=“Timothy, post:1, topic:191”]“The Psychology Of Black Magick: A Look Inside The Mind Of A Genius”

By Timothy Donaghue

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I welcome your feedback.
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Props for putting this out here. This is something I suspected regarding the “Black Magician” mindset for a long time. This is nothing more than Sociopathology in Robes, Ayn Rand with a Wand, Social Darwinism with Demons, and Anton LaVey without the Bastardized Enochian Calls.

This is the epitome of spiritual adolescence.

I can see this appealing most to those who are powerless yet envy those with power while dreaming of their eventual ascension into the ranks of those they secretly hate for actually having that which they so desperately crave. This is absolutely unbalanced. Like the LHP envisioned in this essay, the RHP, taken to extremes, is highly unbalanced as well insofar as unfettered transcendentalist thinking causes a dis-eased, unhealthy rejection of incarnation and of life itself. However, unlike the type of imbalance typified by the LHP, that which is espoused by the RHP is, for the most part, only dangerous to one’s self. The sociopathology represented in this essay is dangerous not only to the spiritual unfoldment of the individual, but also to the wellbeing of others.

I am awake but not yet enlightened, follow no “hand path.” I know that the ego is a useful construct but I never confuse it with my true nature. This manifesto is, honestly, a trap. It looks pretty, promises much and yet will ultimately lead to more of what it is built upon…envy, grasping, anger, alienation, and loneliness. The entirety of what an oak will be is found in the acorn. That which inspires a journey is its outcome.

I have long wondered where one is to find living ideals of the Master of the LHP? Where is he or she that we can point to that has found this dark gnosis? Where can we be directed to look in order to find an exemplar of the path described in this essay? In the East, the LHP and RHP ultimately have the same goals…sloughing off the shackles of illusion and union with Atman, realization of the Tao or No-Self even if their methodology is different. This Western Magickal LHP manifesto, as contained in this essay, is a path into the unknown country. I know of none, who have lived truly in accordance with the philosophy described here, who have achieved enlightenment…by any definition of the term.

Are there living ideals of spiritual mastery of the LHP that someone can point to? Living masters who demonstrate the truth of the LHP’s claims?


As an aside, this is a good forum and I’ve seem some pretty insightful comments herein. However, this “Psychology of Black Magick” post just begged for a response.

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“the way that can be defined is not the The Way” - central taoist concept.
So thinking of it that way, can you achieve that enlightnenment by adhering to any set path that excludes others? or is it only found in balance and acceptance of all methods leading you to the true Tao? I know very little of LHP and RHP detail-wise but they appear to be two sides of a coin, comparative terms, one can’t exist without the other. Just like a battery can’t transfer electricity without a positive and negative connection, can humans achieve their full potental with only one hand, and if you did have only one hand it’s neither a left hand nor a right hand, it’s just your hand.

The use of magick to manipulate others may not be the ultimate path to godhood, but it may be a step along the way. Sometimes you need to get what you want, so you can learn and know that it’s not what you need and move on. All of us were children before we were adults. Sometimes learning from our mistakes might involve repeating those mistakes until we do learn. There seems a fair amount of moralising going on here. Is it fair to pass judgement on another, who may not be as far along their path, as you might think you are on yours? I say let them learn what they need to learn and grow as they need to grow, in their own time.

Timothy, I must say your original post gave me much to think about. I have a couple of questions:

  1. Do you consider yourself a bonne fide black magician and if not, how do you differ from one?
  2. How does such an individual conquer loneliness?
    I am a complete misanthrope. Most people I meet, I end up wishing I hadn’t, because they’re fake. I could count on one hand, the people I’ve met who are not so full of shit, that their eyes should be brown! Most people misunderstand me and I am sick to death of trying to explain myself. No bastard listens.
    I envy the true recluse and wish I could be one. I love my own company. I love to travel alone, study alone, work alone -people pay to be around me, so I tolerate them…but I get lonely sometimes! Sometimes it gets so bad, I let my guard down. My inate ability to sniff out a fake and blast them away is weakened. I let them under my battlements and they end up kicking me as soon as I’m down. I get back up and kick their miserable ass to eternity, but I also kick myself for allowing them close enough to have kicked me in the first place.
    From what you say, a relationship or friendship for anything other than one’s ultimate ascent is an indulgent distraction. Well, I might be travelling by road, from Auckland to Wellington for business. If I can, I will make time to enjoy the beautiful countryside in between. It may take longer to reach my final destination, but I might just arrive in a better mood, due to my indulgent distractions on the way. Is that a bad analogy? Probably is, I’d better sign off, business to attend to…

Well right on then. I think I’m finally in the right fucking place. I’ve never understood people. The more I learn and advance as a sorcerer, the stronger I become, the less I do understand them. They hate me? Good… That’s free energy. They love me, sweet that’s support. Thanks to this lifestyle… I feel like I have more control over life. Like… I’m unstoppable. It’s great.

Greetings to all,

 So if anyone who has purchased Timothy's book of black magic, and is willing to part with it for a semi-reasonable price please PM me.  The condition of the book doesn't matter I'd be happy with a used copy!

To me the psychology of black magic is the celebration of dark beauty. This “goth glamour” (As discussed in Seth’s book, Post Modern Magick) seems to glorify and adorn a Death current that vampirizes power from everything around it. In exopolitics this is referred to as service to self ideology (4th dimensional negative). To the upper class that actually uses negative occultism against common people it comes across in their slogan “God and My Right.” The life of a black mage is about glory, autonomy and wisdom, often acquired through baneful manipulation. It is about secrecy and sowing misdirection. Life in a black coven is not necessarily devoted to accumulating tons of power over others, but it is seems more like being an initiate in a brotherhood of death, a dark romance with brethren that seek congress with spirits that are associated with violence, destruction, and sacrifice. This is not to say that the spirits that did fall are brutish philistines, because they more closely resemble cultured aristocrats, all be it with fiery tempers. The inverted pentagram to me represents the horns on the helmets that the Annunaki "Gods’ wore, humanoids that brought slave driving and magick to our planet in the first place, and nuked anything that they couldn’t have.

well spoken and intelligently written Timothy I enjoy how you set the stage of your writing through the mindset and give out right answers and things to meditate about kind of puts it in the directions of the question to us all as do we fit this and also good solid information much appreciated