[quote=âAdamThoth, post:2, topic:8897â]My observations are that amazing miracles happen in almost every single religion and faith in the world now how much is genuine and how much is the work of priests attempting to fill the collection plates is up for debate. The universal constant in all the events involving thaumaturgy of an amazing degree is faith, the individual has such an undying faith in their jesus, Buddha, or Krishna, that it works as a placebo effect.
My mother used to tell us to pray to Jesus when we were sick and I remember my brother had enough and told her damn it mom that doesnât do shit! I need some medicine. He was right every time we got sick she told us to pray to get well and it never did shit.
This was when I started to question things. Why were we fed a line of crap about miracles and such and when we needed help there was none. I kept hearing itâs faith you have to have faith. I asked well if itâs all about me and my faith then does some supernatural deity have anything to do with it at all? Obviously that couldnât be because these other religions are having miracles and saying it was their god, well which one is the real one? they all do miracles for selected followers so what gives here?
The inevitable conclusion is that itâs the individual not the deity. The faith in the deity facilitates the mechanism that effects change in our observed reality. The mechanism however is within us. A good example was the one given by ashtker about the saint who came home to find her mother dead without the last rights. Here we find that when she finds that her motherâs condition contradicts what is in her belief (that her mother would be spared torture of hell) she became angry and demanded that jesus bring her mother back. I have two problems with this narrative, the first is that from her viewpoint jesus forgot about his deal with her or he neglected the deal.
Doesnât sound like his personality to drop the ball like that being the son of God and everything. Second is that she reacted like a child throwing a tantrum and had to demand that the son of God make good on his deal. The mechanism went into effect to make her reality coincide with what she believed. Even Jesus himself says faith moves mountains notice he doesnât say god moves mountains he says âfaithâ moves mountains. He even goes as far to say
âBecause you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, âMove from here to there,â and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.â He doesnât say god or himself he says (YOU)!!! YOU can say to the mountain move and it will move . He doesnât say god will move it for you he says it will move. Itâs Mathew 17:20 for all you Bible thumpers out there. Now I have not raised the dead but I have done some things which defy the general perception of what is possible and it was because I had faith in myself to do it.[/quote]
If you give up and lose faith because God didnât answer your prayer, thatâs the same thing as if you try 1 spell, it fails, then you conclude that magick doesnât exist. Obviously in order to become skilled at magick it takes many failures, many spells, trial and error, and years and study and experience to be proficient. The same is true with prayer. It makes no sense to immediately conclude that prayer doesnât work just because one doesnât have the faith, knowledge, background, experience, proficiency, power or relationship with Jesus Christ.
1 Peter 3:12
For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.
James 1:5-8
If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.
A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
1 John 3:22-23
And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
Itâs a mistake to think that God will answer just anyone or just any prayer. There are many factors involved. Itâs also a mistake to think that prayer doesnât work. It just doesnât work for everyone as not all men have faith.
Furthermore, I commend you for recognizing the power of faith but I think itâs a mistake for your to trust in your own power versus God. Having faith in yourself can only get you so far. Notice below that the first thing Jesus said was, âHave faith in God.â He did not say, have faith in yourself. By the way, faith comes by hearing the word of God. So when you read that bible verse you quoted, and believe it is true, in my opinion that is like having faith in God because you believe what he said is true.
Mark 11:21-23
And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away.
And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.
If you trust in yourself, it is like a weak foundation.
Luke 6:47-49
Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:
He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.
But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.
Psalm 33:16-20
There is no king saved by the multitude of an host: a mighty man is not delivered by much strength.
An horse is a vain thing for safety: neither shall he deliver any by his great strength.
Behold, the eye of the Lord is upon them that fear him, upon them that hope in his mercy;
To deliver their soul from death, and to keep them alive in famine.
Our soul waiteth for the Lord: he is our help and our shield.
Psalm 127
Except the Lord build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.
It is vain for you to rise up early, to sit up late, to eat the bread of sorrows: for so he giveth his beloved sleep.
Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.
As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth.
Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.
When you understand and realize that the Bible is the word of God, and the word of God is truth and you can trust on it and rely upon it, then your faith is built upon a strong foundation like a rock. That is how you can attain immovable faith, faith that can move mountains, faith that doesnât need scientific evidence or proof to know that something is true.
John 17:17
Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
The following is a great documentary on the King James version and why it is the best version to use, I highly recommend it if you are interested in studying the power of faith verses magick because the other versions simply do not have the power that the King James has.
âNew World Order Bible Versionsâ Full Movie with Subtitles
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53BN9tTDoCw]- YouTube