Long story short I’ve done some rituals with Lucifer to work on this women for me. To be obssessed and in love with me… I never spoke with him or visually saw him. But things are good for a day with her and then go downhill and things haven’t been very good for me with her recently… So I found a summoning ritual for Zepar and it says that his specialty is making a women fall in love with you… Is it disrespectful to try and summon him since I asked lucifer for help?
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I could suggest: Do not summon the same deity to achieve the same goal. When drawing a plan of conquest towards a goal, they always draw several paths that lead to the same path of achievement and much more if the treaty presents strengths, or is of dense energy in particular characteristics. When a deity is called and sent or commissioned on a line it is counter-reciprocal to call a different deity to travel the same purpose, the ideal would be:
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To have certainty that the Great Lucifer took his case, if he took it he could not call Mr. Zepar to pour his power because it would be an energy shock between the two deities and would nullify or hinder the achievement.
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If Father Lucifer repeated it, he was happy to help you, call him and request an advance in his management, raising the characteristics that have been raised to allow him to give strength to his progress.
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If you have no conviction or assurance that the emperor is managing your purpose, be sure to call Mr. Zepar, this is distasteful to his majesty.
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Now: You can call Duke Zepar to work in another way that promotes the same goal: If I call Father Lucifer to work on that woman for you, I would call Duke Zepar so that his power may bring them together in love not for her to come to you but so that when the encounter comes to you it comes with the burden of love, they are two different things but oriented to the same achievement.
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Remember: although the grand duke is not only a fighter, he is also a lover, since his main objective is to make women fall in love with men, as long as there are no energetic crosses with another deity, his request may not be taken.
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Meditate well, the steps to follow do not venture through the difficulties that generate anxiety in the achievement.
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Lucifer great Lord is ALWAYS WINNER I have not seen case not achieved with his auspices as long as the rules of his intervention are respected, speaking with HIM could overcome the obstacle
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This is a contribution of appreciation consider what was planted and omit what does not edify you!
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With this or any other situation, I would advise patience. Magick can sometimes bring what is requested very quickly, but oftentimes it takes time for reality to change and develop into what you want it to be.
The problem is not that you have chosen the wrong spirit to help you. Lucifer is more than capable of helping you find a romantic or sexual partner. The problem is most likely either with your approach, the person you have chosen, or with your internal state.
Despite the old adage, rarely is love “at first sight.” These feelings take time to develop within someone, and while magick can help things move in that direction more quickly and reliably, the mundane components of a relationship still need to unfold. If you never get to know the other person, it would be difficult for them to develop genuine feelings for you, and you for them, however strong your magick.
It could also very well be that you would not enjoy a relationship with this person. Some minor divination could help with this (I often employ tarot). Magick can bring many new people into your life, so if you find that you are not compatible, be glad that you saved yourself valuable time from being in a poor relationship that would not work out well. There are many fish in the sea, and magick has a way of bringing the good ones to you.
My suggestion, then, would be to summon Lucifer once more and ask for guidance and wisdom regarding this situation. Perhaps it is in your best interest to move on. Or, perhaps there is a different approach that you could take that would get you to where you want to be. Worrying about it will not help you. Remain open, listen, and Lucifer will help you find the way.
(as a quick note, Zepar is more suited to encouraging short-term “flings” than he is to long-term relationships - if you’re looking for the long-term, Sallos would be a better choice)
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We have had sex 5 times. Intense sex which I prayed lucifer would be involved in and I made her squirt like a fountain twice in the session I prayed that. She even told me she almost let me into her life. But one day she says she misses being intimate with me and the next that we shouldn’t be alone together. Its been wild.
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Not necessarily since the Goetia work “under” Lucifer to begin with. The Goetic demons and Lucifer can work hand in hand if the practitioner asks them.
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Congratulations on your success, sounds like you both have had a good time.
Now that the situation has adapted and changed with your magick, you may want to consider how you want things to go moving forward. If you’re looking for a relatively long-term relationship, you’ll want to complement the passion that is already present with a more grounded emotional connection.
Consider, for a moment, her point of view. It seems like you two went from 0 to 100 pretty damn quickly when it comes to sex, so the other aspects of the relationship are likely lagging behind. Keeping the flame going would be beneficial, but you may want to consider spending time together doing non-sexual activities (you can have sex afterwards, but you should do other stuff too). It may also help to ease up just a little, for now, to give the relationship space to breathe.
Despite his reputation around here, Lucifer is certainly suited to more than just sexual tasks. He can help her thoughts become more in-line with the passion she is feeling. He may also open clear and honest communication between the two of you. Good communication is the cornerstone of any good relationship, and so this is what I recommend requesting.
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I just wanted to say that I have tried working with both the Goetia and Lucifer during the same time frame, and personally I think it may be best to stick with one system or the other for any given situation. To note, some of the demons in Lucifer’s Legion share similar names to a few of the Goetic demons, but I believe these to be separate and unique entities (perhaps they share historical roots, but for practical purposes their energy was quite distinct, and their powers differed from each other).
One interesting thing I did notice is that my mindset or mood would shift depending upon which magick I worked the previous evening. At the time it was an interesting experiment, but upon reflection I think it would have been more effective to explore one or the other with more depth and nuance, rather than constantly switching between the two.
I wouldn’t really call them seperate systems tbh, the infernal nation which includes the Goetia I consider a whole system in their own, just some choose to split them into sub-categories. I’d consider separate systems if someone tried to merge the goetia with the Gods then I could agree there.
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I worked with zepar and I will tell you my results I had a lot of sex with really hot girls but that’s it just one or 2 night stands and poof they disappear. some I really liked and wanted to continue cause the sex was great but I can’t get any one to stick around for more than 2x.
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It sounds like good results but you get what you ask for, the issue is when emotions get attached I suppose lol.
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