Soul retrieval


#1

I’m into this at the moment. Topic is quite fascinating.

Have some of you already performed soul retrievals ?


#2

Yes. I have performed partial soul retrievals for many clients as part
of the healing.


#3

Yes. Its quite a common practice among Shamans.


#4

Thanks for your answers. I understand - if Im correct - that there are several kinds of soul retrievals.

I’m talking about deceased soul retrievals. Lost soul stucks in the astral. I’m not talking about living people who had trauma and “lost” some parts of their souls.


#5

[quote=“The Eye, post:4, topic:2983”]Thanks for your answers. I understand - if Im correct - that there are several kinds of soul retrievals.

I’m talking about deceased soul retrievals. Lost soul stucks in the astral. I’m not talking about living people who had trauma and “lost” some parts of their souls.[/quote]

Hmmm…I was only taught about the one you’re not interested in hahaha! I was not aware there were other types. So souls that are lost in the astral? I don’t think that classifies as a soul retrieval, rather guiding a lost soul to a specific place. I could be wrong as I was only taught about the healing method of soul retrieval


#6

"A retrieval is a technique whereby you meet up with one or more souls stuck in the astral and help them move to a higher realm (what some might call “heaven”) Helping could be as simple as just standing there and talking to them. We are visible to stuck spirits because we are physically alive and (I guess) have a certain glow. Guidance/helper spirits are sometimes invisible to the stuck spirit. Our glow, or simply awareness of us helps the stuck spirit see the helpers in attendance, and the rest of the transition can be completed by the helper spirit"

One example of retrieval :

"[i]Asked my guide for an experience that will prove beyond doubt that I can perceive the non physical. Waited and then I got the impression he asked “do you want to do a retrieval?, c’mon let’s go”.
I followed him as we walked down a city laneway and then round the corner where a coffee shop was. I saw a dark hired young girl looking sad in the window. I went in and ordered a coffee.

I noticed that the girl was no longer there in the window and even though the cafe was busy, no-one was seated around where I saw the girl. So I asked the girl at the counter about it.

She said that a girl had died of a heroin overdose named “Jessica Rainier” and they say her ghost is still there. People who usually sit there, end up moving because they feel uncomfortable.

So I sat down at the table in question and after a while the girl materialised, yet she seemed more blond and gaunt, more like the heroin junkies you see in movies of salvation army ads. (I feel that was my interpreter overlaying my idea of what a heroin OD person should look like)
“I can see you” I told her.

After a brief conversation i verified the information given by the girl at the counter. Jessica said that she’d died just before her 19th birthday. Very sad, very dejected, she knew she was dead, but because she hated herself so much, she was trapped. The fact that no-one sat hear here only reinforced her feelings about herself. She said her parents were very religious and she rebelled by taking drugs etc.

All the while the helper who was dressed as a 1950’s cop, was standing watching at the door.

I felt so much compassion for her and gave her a big hug sending lots of PUL.

She cracked her hard exterior and said that she still loved her parents, even thought she didn’t like the strict religiousness. She missed her mum, she wanted to love her mum so much, yet couldn’t because of the perceived way her mum treated her. I felt the love coming from ‘Jess’.

Then just standing across the road, was an older woman dressed in a big black coat that may have had a fur lining. I felt it was Jess’s mum and could feel the love coming from her too. Jess’s mum came into the coffee shop and embraced Jess and said “I’m so sorry, I love you”.

While they were embracing, the scene changed to an old manor style house with big staircase and they stayed there hugging.

When I asked my helper / guide for proof that I could take away, they said that the information I got will be evidence enough[/i]"


#7

Yes, lots, it’s usually referred to as “psychopomp work” (psycho = souls, pomp = escort, therefore “escort of souls”) and most of the core shamanic teachers in England teach it as a standard method - you need it when navigating the “Middle World” of that paradigm, the world that’s the “energetic parallel” to our own, because some stuck people get nasty and malevolent.

Done loads, done it professionally and for building up power, it’s one of those things most people either love or feel turned off by, and I love it.

Results come in the form of happier buildings and customers paying for the end of their nightmares, no more lost metal objects and an end to general bad luck, etc., less chance of tangible results and payment if you work old prisons, asylums, etc., but more chance of interesting encounters and learning methods and defence/combat techniques.

That’s my short-sharp experience of it, it’s a bastard to do professionally (I guess unless you’re well known) because people don’t understand the time and sometimes effort put in if you’re going to heal the stuck souls (as opposed to bind them, or send them to a lower dimension) and some people think it’s “exorcism” - not understanding that if I “exorcised” their great grandma, she’d be suffering for - if not eternity - a very long time.

People have a disconnect and dehumanise the dead so anyway I kinda packed it in as a service, though I do still play around with anything that looks interesting (like discovery of a mass grave, or news of a hospital where someone’s been murdering patients) because it basically can boost power and it’s interesting, and (fwiw) a way of helping the most helpless people.

I have lots on this but it’s a fairly minority interest and I don’t want to bore anyone.


#8

I’d love to read about some of your retrievals


#9

Cool, I’ll have a look through some of my notes and post a couple later this week.


#10

[quote=“The Eye, post:6, topic:2983”]"A retrieval is a technique whereby you meet up with one or more souls stuck in the astral and help them move to a higher realm (what some might call “heaven”) Helping could be as simple as just standing there and talking to them. We are visible to stuck spirits because we are physically alive and (I guess) have a certain glow. Guidance/helper spirits are sometimes invisible to the stuck spirit. Our glow, or simply awareness of us helps the stuck spirit see the helpers in attendance, and the rest of the transition can be completed by the helper spirit"

One example of retrieval :

"[i]Asked my guide for an experience that will prove beyond doubt that I can perceive the non physical. Waited and then I got the impression he asked “do you want to do a retrieval?, c’mon let’s go”.
I followed him as we walked down a city laneway and then round the corner where a coffee shop was. I saw a dark hired young girl looking sad in the window. I went in and ordered a coffee.

I noticed that the girl was no longer there in the window and even though the cafe was busy, no-one was seated around where I saw the girl. So I asked the girl at the counter about it.

She said that a girl had died of a heroin overdose named “Jessica Rainier” and they say her ghost is still there. People who usually sit there, end up moving because they feel uncomfortable.

So I sat down at the table in question and after a while the girl materialised, yet she seemed more blond and gaunt, more like the heroin junkies you see in movies of salvation army ads. (I feel that was my interpreter overlaying my idea of what a heroin OD person should look like)
“I can see you” I told her.

After a brief conversation i verified the information given by the girl at the counter. Jessica said that she’d died just before her 19th birthday. Very sad, very dejected, she knew she was dead, but because she hated herself so much, she was trapped. The fact that no-one sat hear here only reinforced her feelings about herself. She said her parents were very religious and she rebelled by taking drugs etc.

All the while the helper who was dressed as a 1950’s cop, was standing watching at the door.

I felt so much compassion for her and gave her a big hug sending lots of PUL.

She cracked her hard exterior and said that she still loved her parents, even thought she didn’t like the strict religiousness. She missed her mum, she wanted to love her mum so much, yet couldn’t because of the perceived way her mum treated her. I felt the love coming from ‘Jess’.

Then just standing across the road, was an older woman dressed in a big black coat that may have had a fur lining. I felt it was Jess’s mum and could feel the love coming from her too. Jess’s mum came into the coffee shop and embraced Jess and said “I’m so sorry, I love you”.

While they were embracing, the scene changed to an old manor style house with big staircase and they stayed there hugging.

When I asked my helper / guide for proof that I could take away, they said that the information I got will be evidence enough[/i]"[/quote]

Eye, is this from a Shamanic site or a general occult site? It doesn’t sound like the generally accepted practice as its taught in Shamanism, which is where soul retrieval started. Seems like another system adopted the practice into their own work and changed the meaning.


#11

[quote=“Baphomet, post:10, topic:2983”]

"[i]A retrieval is a technique whereby you meet up with one or more souls stuck in the astral and help them move to a higher realm (what some might call “heaven”)

Eye, is this from a Shamanic site or a general occult site? It doesn’t sound like the generally accepted practice as its taught in Shamanism, which is where soul retrieval started. Seems like another system adopted the practice into their own work and changed the meaning.[/quote]

I wondered about that - “soul retrieval” is the term used by most core shamanic schools for helping living people who have “soul loss” caused by some kind of traumatic event, and “psychopomp work” is the term they normally used when it’s a whole dead person (so to speak) you’re escorting though - though some of them will need soul-retrieval if they’ve been really badly fractured in life, and that’s why they got stuck.


#12

As you saw yourselves, “retrieval” is the word they use.

You have to read Bruce Moen’s works since he is “specialized” in this.

The retrieval section of his forum with tons of accounts :

http://afterlife-knowledge.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=retrievals


#13

Please bore us (or at least me… I can’t talk for everyone)


#14

The Foundation for Shamanic Studies and their British “chapter” (or whatever the heck! lol) The Sacred Trust tend to use the terms I posted above, this comes from Harner’s original work and he pretty much birthed core shamanism as it’s taught now, so they’re probably doing the same basic work and calling it a different name.

The word “psychopomp” does fly completely over most people’s heads (especially muggles) so I’m kind of not surprised they’re using a more friendly-sounding term, even if it’s not the one originally used by the founders and teachers of that system.

Whatever you call it, the work’s out there, the power to be had from it’s out there - the representative and fair payments from clients, meh, not so much in my experience! lol

Anyway, I’ll dig out some notes and post the methods I was taught later this week. :slight_smile:

Edit to add, here’s an overview of core shamanic techniques and terminology: http://www.rivershealingarts.com/core_shamanic.php


#15

[quote=“The Eye, post:12, topic:2983”]As you saw yourselves, “retrieval” is the word they use.

You have to read Bruce Moen’s works since he is “specialized” in this.

The retrieval section of his forum with tons of accounts :

http://afterlife-knowledge.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=retrievals[/quote]

I hate when authors take practices from other systems, keep the same name but change the actual process.


#16

The Foundation for Shamanic Studies and their British “chapter” (or whatever the heck! lol) The Sacred Trust tend to use the terms I posted above, this comes from Harner’s original work and he pretty much birthed core shamanism as it’s taught now, so they’re probably doing the same basic work and calling it a different name.

The word “psychopomp” does fly completely over most people’s heads (especially muggles) so I’m kind of not surprised they’re using a more friendly-sounding term, even if it’s not the one originally used by the founders and teachers of that system.

Whatever you call it, the work’s out there, the power to be had from it’s out there - the representative and fair payments from clients, meh, not so much in my experience! lol

Anyway, I’ll dig out some notes and post the methods I was taught later this week. :slight_smile:

Edit to add, here’s an overview of core shamanic techniques and terminology: http://www.rivershealingarts.com/core_shamanic.php[/quote]

I like Harner’s work, despite being from a different branch of Shamanism. I do agree with the terminology and definitions given in that link, especially the one on soul retrieval.