So I got weed and smoked a big dose and it didnt cause me to see spirits

Cinquefoil
Parsley
Aconite
Belladonna
Hemlock
Cowbane
Hashish
Hemp flowers
Poppy Flowers
Hellebore

Or mix and match. Youre not supposed to directly consume The smoke could also be toxic.

I agree, meditation…

Then try various meditation practices focusing on third eye openings. Meditation alone helps your mind relax on a much calmer state. Hell even without any weed in the mix as that only helps the mind jump quicker into relaxation. I don’t want say your using that as an excuse to get messed on drugs and start seeing shit but there has to be another much healthier way of achieving this.

Instead of taking drugs, try meditating, making a request, or making a pact with an entity to improve your astral senses, I’m not so sure but raziel might help too, You can petition fastos or meton or sastan, the decision is yours.

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If you do the practice, that will help with your emotional state.

Smoking weed (on occasion for me) does help with my emotional state as well, but if you want to cultivate magickal abilities you have to practice magick.

Maybe try giving it a go and seeing what happens.

Hope you enjoyed getting baked though

That’s called being lazy and self destructive.
Tryin to find a shortcut for spiritual senses when you haven’t developed the emotional and mental control to build you foundations is like poking a grizzly and expecting nothing bad to happen to you.

Access to the spiritual energies or realms on any level will just further destabilize your emotions if you have not built up a foundation because this stuff kicks up ALOT of psychological dust storms.

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Have to say I totally disagree with that. MDMA can show you a side of yourself that youve forgotten ever existed. It can help you overcome boundaries youve set in social situations, it helps you get in touch with your emotions etcetc.
Granted, as with any drug, you have to work on yourself afterwards for all of the above to have lasting effects.
But in my experience MDMA is far more than just a cuddle drug.

Kind of agree but I think its important to mention that for some people “blasting open the doors” can go a looooong way in dealing with a too high amount of scepticism. I wouldnt be here if I hadnt taken that route but I do have to mention aswell that it can be one of the most frightening and damaging experiences of ones life.

Agree with the whole rest of your post.

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Be very carefull with shortcuts my friend!

Ok, let me say…
1- there is the probability that you haven´t smoked properlly the weed. Is it your first time takeing weed?
weed is supposed to take you to the right stage to get you into trance and get out of your body. This ofc if you take the right dose (not too little not too much).

2- As many have mentioned… you are just being lazy and rushing to some ground that you don´t have domain of. Be carefull don´t get illusional by the fantastic stories that you read in this forum, there is also the other side.

Start with the basics, start with the fundamental lessons of magick. Learn how to meditate, how to banish, warding so and so and good luck!

I tried to do practice but I have too many blockages to do this without drugs. I decided to get 2 grams of mushrums to assist me in evocation of my favorite demon- Samael. I think he will protect me from any dangers of the drug because I have a good connection with him

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Psst…Samael is an archangel, not a demon lol

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I am sure he is prince of the demons. He is the enemy of the archangel michael and his wife is lilith. Lucifer is not a demon in my eyes but an angel

No it is not my first time… I smoked weed many times in the past. Weed probably doesnt cause people to see spirits in most cases

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That is not his mythology. In the Talamund, he is an archangel. He is the head of the “satans,” which in Judaic lore are a group of angels that prosecute souls before God in the court of Heaven. He is also one of the Angels of Death, and came for the soul of Moses. He is often tied to the Christian egregore of Satan, but he isn’t actually fallen. He still works for God, and retains his full status as an archangel of the 5th Heaven (in some sources he’s placed in the 7th).

In the Zohar, he is listed as a leader of the Divine forces of destruction. You are right that he is considered a prince of demons, but that is because he copulated with Lilith and begot demon offspring (Asmodai is his son) but he is not one himself.

In the Book of Enoch, he is listed as one of the Watchers under Shemyaza (in the apocrypha of Enoch, he is fallen).

He is not the enemy of Michael, except in the sense of being the guardian angel of Rome, which was the enemy of Israel, and had Michael as guardian.

I like Samael. :slight_smile:

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you won´t see the spirit in front of you. You still need to astral travel the weed will make the process easier.

but you might also be right - different people got different reaction

Sounds like you got lucky then,cause I’ve known a few people who fled back to their old religious programing or got stuck in delusion since they had not laid any solid foundations to gain footing on. You’re basically playing russian roulette with your psyche.

I’ve had my own experiences with psychotropics in my own practice but that was years into it already and i have a set of rituals i specifically go through to prepare my mind for the eventual cracking of the aura that such substances cause. Often insightful but can still be a bit jarring.

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The forums have become increasingly anti-drug over the years OP (which kinda surprises me tbh)…even though it was the most common thing in the world for past/ancient practitioners to consume some sort of substance to enhance the trance state. For Nostradamus, it was nutmeg. For Crowley it was hashish. For the Zoroastrians it was a cannabis-infused wine mixture. For the Aztecs, they preferred magic mushrooms. The issue is that you need to know what you’re doing.

I’ll just say this: There is no inherent virtue to meditation over any other path to getting to the same state. I respect and recognize the pros and cons to all methods. We don’t call people lazy for using training wheels on a bike for a few weeks before going off on their own with two wheels. Its a viable path to take to get the feeling/experience of riding a bike until you gain the confidence to take them off. Drugs for the purpose of evocation is no different. Many of these drugs (the naturally growing ones) have spirits of their own attached to them, and have been given a certain level of respect within several religious sects. One viable path you can take @Samael11 is to use a particular drug as training wheels, so that you can get the experience of evocation in the short term…and use the time to contact an entity like Sastan who can give you tailor-made meditations to help you evoke without the training wheels in the long run. Perfectly respectable and viable path. Or perhaps you can hire EA to give you specific meditations you can do that may work. Also a perfectly respectable and viable path. Point is, I don’t really see the value of having an elitist view over folks that take a path that you didn’t take. Its not in my nature to reflexively label someone as lazy because I went left, and they went right. I hearken back to the days when Timothy use to post more often who was very pro-drug use in evocation:

Or EA’s many experimentations with drugs which he has detailed in some of his writings. For me the question is simple: Does X path work or not work? If the answer is yes it works, I’m very unconcerned about whether its the long path or the short path. If it gets results, it has my respect.

Now…you say that you got weed. You’ll have to be more specific because not all weed is created equal. What you need if you want to use something like cannabis as an aid is something like hashish…which is very high in THC. THC is the main compound that assists with this, so you need to ensure that what your smoking actually has a high concentration of it. When Crowley underwent the Abramelin Operation the first time, he went with hashish.

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This is true, even therapists say they can accomplish years worth of therapy in a matter of hours using mdma. They are also trained therapists and not stoner kids. Drugs do have value because we are drugs. We are made out of chemicals. That being said, they are tools to be used skillfully, not magic pills that do whatever you hope they will. The setting for your experience, and the way you integrate your experience afterwards is key. I don’t agree that all substances are lazy short cuts just because some people try to use them that way. They are legit tools that most people approach immaturely.

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:joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: sorry but that title made me laugh

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Oh I had all of that happen aswell. But before I had those experiences I didnt believe in anything out of agreed upon reality. Now I do.
Its definitely an incredibly high price to pay and I dont know if I would do it again in another life, but it can help those with very rigid views.

Using drugs to help you out is going to be useful however it will only be useful if you have a foundation to build upon

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Can confirm @Samael11. He’s my guardian angel.