all demons pray lord shiva so its nothing great to refer shiva as family by paimon
Ummm no. And King Paimon isnāt a demon. Iām not looking for a debate here, so whatever YOU think is right for you, thatās whatās right for you.
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You still havenāt answered my question, thoughā¦
I wouldnāt claim that so openly because no all demons do not pray to Shiva. Youāre borderline religious preaching.
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Agreed. I have a feeling that @Morningstar_666 you have a set idea about what a demon is, which may be completely logical for you, but not necessarily for others. Thatās why Iām careful putting anything out there and make sure to add that itās my understanding, not some universal truth. There is no reason to preach to anyobody, we can learn from other peopleās viewpoints.
i cant really talk to them i just did research in vedas and purans and rishimuni
but i have a mission
Ah ok, thanks for answering my question. Thereās a LOT of room for debate with pretty much anything in the occult, but since I actually can communicate with spirits, I simply added what I was told without any notions of superiority or whatever. I like hearing other peopleās thoughts even if they contradict mine, but like I said, thereās a specific issue about the ādemonsā from the Goetia. Some of them do not belong to the race of demons by origin, simple as that.
whats the issue? about demons as you mentioned
I edited my previous reply.
I find a lot of the goetia demons are demons they were just linked to the Gods and overtime people went āoh yeah thatās their demonic aspectā while in my opinion that demon exists on their own separate from that Deity. For example Haagenti and Bastet are considered the same but Iāve experience with both. Then again I like to compare my SPG with research to see how my SPGs align and differ and in some cases I will discard some SPG and in other cases I will work them together depending on how far out the SPG is.
I see what you mean, and I agree. The entity āKing Paimonā exists in His seperate form from whatever He may have originated as, but even as such, He is not purely a demon. I donāt see anything wrong with the label ādemonā other than it does not apply to Him, from what I have researched, as well as from what other occultists have been saying independently, and not to mention from what He has said Himself. Some think Heās a King of the djinn (thatās a closer approximation than the ādemonā label tbhā¦) while others have referred to Him as angelic, and whatnot.
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I could lean more to a king of Djinn that would make a bit more sense to me. Just as Azazel/Iblis and Asmodeus connection to the Djinn.
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Azazel is iblis?
hey 1 question,
is it possible to master all 5 elements?
This is off-topicā¦ can you ask this someplace else where your question fits in with the topic, or make a seperate topic please?
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can i pm?
What five do you mean? The fire, water, earth, and air are the 4 elements. I donāt consider spirit part of them I consider spirit to be Aether which is a nonclassic element
My bad
i will pm you