Damn Euoi, I didn’t even get foreplay from my HGA…unless you count the candy he used to get me in the van.
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What can I say?
I’m a boss ass bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch
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There’s so much wrong with your thinking I don’t even know where to start …
… the human ‘sexual’ act is itself a mere cheap copy of the union with this being.
Done it with several beings, as Poete says: more to it than just getting your cookies.Each time I was given something new, it is after all, a mirror of creation with the orgasm as the big bang.
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Wait, isn’t Euoi like 15?
Can I go to jail for reading that?
(This thread is full of lulz)
[quote=“Euoi, post:3, topic:3662”]Yes, I have. He took me out for a nice dinner, then brought me back to his place.
HGA pushed me roughly down to the perfectly made bed. It’s sheets of silk caressing my body…[/quote]
How come I only got electric door mustard?! NO FAIR!!
I have literally no idea what to say on this thread, which is something of a first.
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[quote=“Gnosis, post:8, topic:3662”]Wait, isn’t Euoi like 15?
Can I go to jail for reading that?
(This thread is full of lulz)[/quote]
Hi, I’m Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC…why don’t you have a seat over there?
In all seriousness if you read “21st Century Mage” there is a method of contacting your HGA via sexual gnosis. I have not tired it, but it is in there.
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[quote=“Orismen, post:10, topic:3662”][quote=“Gnosis, post:8, topic:3662”]Wait, isn’t Euoi like 15?
Can I go to jail for reading that?
(This thread is full of lulz)[/quote]
Hi, I’m Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC…why don’t you have a seat over there?
In all seriousness if you read “21st Century Mage” there is a method of contacting your HGA via sexual gnosis. I have not tired it, but it is in there.[/quote]
Thanks, but I’ll stick with the methods to achieve K & C in Donald Kraig’s ‘Modern Magick’.
I get enough sex with myself every week due to the internet porn anyway.
Maxout, I’m going to do a post soon about evoking your Personal Daemon into external form, ideally a sexually attractive and romantically compelling form (the two things are slightly different but both important) and you don’t have sex with it, it becomes your highest aspiration and stuff. I’ve done this and benefitted from it, and I just need a quiet day to marshall my thoughts and get it typed up properly.
Please bear with me coz I am busy, but this might be of interest to you, and I don’t know about the “HGA” stuff (by that specific definition, anyway) as much as some people, so I can’t help with that.
Under no circumstances can you conceive a child with your Personal Daemon since it’s just a part of you - therefore, the child would be either imaginary, or also a part of yourself.
I just re-read your post history and apologies if the light-hearted banter on your thread was inappropriate, if you have a diagnosis of autism then what most of us nutters are rambling on about may not make sense! 
To me the HGA (higher self) is that part of us that is manifested in the source “all-that-is” portion of existence. For us it is God that reminds us we are the one and only. There is no other. Can you have sex with it? Aren’t you having sex with the source of all that is every single time you unleash your penis or wet your vagina? If you want to experience having a child with it I would sooner ask myself if you yourself are not the result of offspring between the HGA and the human concept, divinity in the idea of physical human reality? Personally I would rather not condemn others to such “fun” but that’s just me
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maxout
Similar to what Lady Eva achieved, sex that produces energetic offspring is possible with an angel or arch angel, but not your guardian/higher self, it would have to be one who is completely separate from you and an individual and known entity on their own.
I only mention this because I am going through a similar experience with an angel that I shall not name, but I most likely wont be posting about it and wont be offering the product of the union for use to the general public. But I am hoping that the product being is able to help the common goal of us magi, allowing us to shape the world in however we see fit. Lady Eva already knows about it, since she is the only one I’ve discussed this with.
tl;dr - I am attempting something similar with an angel (separate entity not guardian), but shall not be discussing it further most likely.
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When you have sex with a spiritual being and produce an offspring that is alive, persistent an tangible to those that are capable of spiritual sight and experience (like Eva has) what really happens on the higher levels of understanding is the union of ideas. Sex is nothing but sharing energy (consciousness/ideas), in our world of physicality it’s all about a hole and a stick moving back and forth but in essence it is all about energy.
The reason I bring it up is because a lot of you think you can interact in this way with a variety of external beings but not with the highest of high, your higher self or HGA. If you want to impregnate your HS or the other way around rest assured you can, for the simple reason that external doesn’t really exist at the end of the day. For those of you that have not perceived the higher self it might be difficult to conceive that everything you experience is by its grace, the physical experience and the family you have, your dreams and hopes but also the demons you manifest into (semi) physical manifestation. All is your HGA guiding you to your true self. Now if you truly understand this and desire an offspring of whatever form believe me you can have as many as you like. Demons, angels, elementals… they are all ideas slowed down into (semi) physical experience to your higher self. It loves nothing more than to work with you on these concepts.
Once again it comes down to perspective, which is a good thing, because perspective can be shifted to suit our needs! Hope this makes some sense 
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I can also state one huge benefit from taking on this endeavor to birth spiritual beings, your second sight ability shoots through the roof. Ive never seen so many entities in my life as I have been seeing these past few weeks… just thought id throw that out there for anyone thinking of attempting this, BUT be warned, it takes a toll on you and having another energetic being growing in you can be just as rigorous as a real/physical pregnancy at times, especially on the emotional level.
That’s an interesting point - my partner for example believes that not only are all spirits primal archetypes in the shared unconscious, that are kind of vivified when we summon them into our lives (and yet they have, in his worldview, no objective reality or person-hood) but also that everyone we meet is a mirror for our internal state, so in a sense he takes the point of view that there is only the One consciousness active in the entire universe, and that it puts on masks and acts out roles through a multiverse in which each point of consciousness is creating its own reality.
From that point of view you could conceive a child with an old boot, and if you gave it enough attention it would be as valid as any demon.
I understand hiw POV and agree with some of it (that at the highest levels we’re emanations of the Source), but I take more of a hard polytheist approach that on our level of existance and several both above and below it, there is a line between real objectively verifiable entities, who exist and have agendas and an existance independent of the observer, and self-created beings who can be very powerful and wise, but are essentially only active with the “reality bubble” of their creator.
The guidance I got to not, y’know, mess with my own HS/PD relates to the fact it’s part of the “Eva” soul, which exists on different levels, but that there is the same spark of life behind it on all those levels.
So in my working model there’s “real” life which has a spark to it that exists outside the cause and effect loop of external observers, and there’s created life, whose causality is the operator creating it: it was that spark of life the father demon brought to my Child (I’m told) which makes him different to an egregore, because his casuality lies outside the constructs of my mind.
But I’m not trying to “convert” anyone else to that way of thinking 
- just clarifying the point of view that informed my statemant earlier in this thread - if you feel that you reject my POV, then you’ll be able to derive a different idea about what’s possible, and that’s an important thing to bear in mind.
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Eva, I agree that both are valid perspectives. I think the real question is what works for you? As silly as it sounds you can be entirely engrossed in the oneness, the separation of consciousness or in a mixture of the two. Whichever one you align with will then become your perceived reality. I myself love a mixture, no matter what the “great” masters say about oneness and unity being the only truth. I like individuality and the stable idea of consciousness crystallized into an expression that can interact with me on my level of experience, I however also realize there is a level where this does not exists that I can tap into. I think the flaw of most people’s logic is to view levels closer to the source of things more valid than their own pleasure in what they are currently experiencing. I support using what is available to you now to create the perfect perspective of reality for your current situation. If then at some point you tire of separation you can always go Krishna on yourself and embrace the source wholly
So yes, you could make love to an old boot and create human-boot offspring (boot body with human face?!), but since that doesn’t sound all that exciting at all perhaps a demonic child was indeed the better choice XD I think the important thing is knowing you have the option and that all potential is open to you, what you then choose is entirely up to you (well, the HS seems to influence quite a bit but you get my drift).
I find the story of you and your partner interesting, it’s such a typical example of how two entirely different viewpoints complement each other in a practical situation. Great things happen when people stop looking for like-like and instead just embrace what works.
I really wouldn’t make a joke of this or dismiss it as a joke, because this really happens to me. An angel has been with me now that I know of for 18 months. It appears to me in all sorts of forms, but I really do not like it when it gets sexual with me. I have told it over and over, but it seems to not be able to help itself. It likes to put its arms around me all the time, throw its leg over me when I’m laying down and has even physically kissed me on the cheek. It has appeared to me in light form as a cat, itself, as an eye in a glass spirit white circle. and shown me spirit butterflies, you can’t make this shit up.
If this has happened to you, you’re not alone and it gets easier.
Thank you all for listening to me share.
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Why is everyone always so obsessed with having sex with everything, without fail any spirit or concept of one and someone has to go “can I fuck it?”
I feel like more occultist should go out and meet real people, getting stuck in spiritual relationships and masturbatory fantasies(even if the spirit is present you are playing with yourself) is never helpful.
I don’t mean to be rude or disrespectful but seriously, you want to have sex with your higher self…that’s just masturbation with a very weird kink.
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Yup
This is right.
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