Schizophrenia

Understood. Pleasant evening to you.

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In my opinion, no. Being mentally ill and diving headlong into magick is not a combo iā€™d want to do if my mind is fragile and full of pain. If anything goes wrong, you wonā€™t have the mental fortitude or strength to fix those problems. Professional help should always come first. Then you can even consider magick. But always remember if you decided to go through with it, you should stay balanced and well. Iā€™ve seen too many mages fall into the pits because of mental illness.

OK since I have first-hand knowledge about this, Iā€™ll write something here.

Because I personally know a lot of schizophrenics and for me for 75% schizophrenia is equal with shamanism and a lot of times equals to magical talent. Look for the chaos magicians they are striving to attain altered states that come naturally to schizophrenicā€™s mind. This is just different labelling in Indian cultures they will become shamans, talking to spirits, etc etc. now they are labelled madmen, as post-Enlightement Europe no longer officaly believes in spiritism.

But you are aware that all magic and spirituality can be labelled as schizophrenia (and actually is done so by ā€œspecialistsā€)?

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My brother and I had the same experiences as children, where we saw things and experienced things together. Later they used this too as an argument for his mental illness. As fraternal twins, I would have a 15% chance of developing schizophrenia too. I donā€™t, I function as society expects of me. Function what a weird word anyway to use on humans. Machines have a function. But if I was to tell my therapist that I shared the same experiences as him and that often my ears will start ringing when spirits reach out to me. I am sure, very sureā€¦ she would see this as a sign of mental illness.

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Schizophrenia is interesting. Hallucinations are also interesting: theyā€™re just a different type of consciousness from the one we call ā€œnormal realityā€. I donā€™t think itā€™s because of anything in the ā€œpastā€ because time/space is an illusion of consciousness. Itā€™s more about what the state of consciousness in the present isā€“thatā€™s what itā€™s about. Exactly why some people tap into this vibration I donā€™t know but it is also one aspect of Infinite Being and can be shifted with the right approach. Yes, spirituality and magick can help but Iā€™d say they need to first stabilise using meditation, generally positive thought, self-knowledge etc. Rituals can sometimes make the shit seem that much more pronounced.

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I would (and have) very strongly advised people with mental health issues to stay as far the fuck away from magick as possible.

That issue is better handled by psychiatrists and other medical doctors who can administer drugs or recommend surgery.

Magick can be highly destabilizing at the best of times.

Guard your mental health with your life.

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my mental ghealth is out the window after all the crap i been through kundalini and demon wise

Ok, i nearly just blacked out.

Something is off around you. I dont know what it is, but youā€™re carrying some heavy vibes and they arenā€™t pretty.

Go see a doctor asap if you can.

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what you mean, did you read me or something

doctors cant help me ive been to them, ive had my neck snapped in the astral by a devil, been pulled in a hell realm, had hordes of demons after me, i am in constant pain and drinking helps sadly

and i have to ask you agasin, did you read me, is that y you blacked out?

No, i didnā€™t read you at all. I just typed my response and when i hit send i went out for a brief second.

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i see, well id be lying if i said my situation isnt real bad

i have my energy extremely messed up, cant even live in my physical vehicle correctly, :cry::cry::cry::cry:

Okay topic re-opened, please keep replies on this as things directly relevant to the OP and his situation, discuss the overall merits (or otherwise) of contemporary psychology at the new topic I created with posts split out, Psychology & Related Debate. Please PM me with any questions about this.

Cheers. :+1:

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:smile::smile::smile::smile::muscle::muscle::muscle:

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I personally find that, although Iā€™ve driven myself to the edge of schizophrenia a few times through diving really deep into the metaphysical, true skitzofrenix sometimes have a very deep connection with the immaterial. Certain high-functioning schizophrenic can very easily Pierce the Veil, and are able to exist partially in both worlds.

On topic, if you are able to find a way to magically suppress the visions and auditory messages, let us know. However, Iā€™m not sure it really works that way. Whenever Iā€™ve driven myself to the Edge of Insanity, the messages and Visions typically donā€™t stop until I pull myself away from the metaphysical for an extended amount of time.

If the Visions & voices are too disturbing, or too distracting, magick is a good supplement to psychiatric care.

That said, if you need help, go get itā€¦

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I tried, Im going to try again, Im not a schizo, but due to past black magick, I am exhibiting similar syptoms but worse