I briefly called on the spirit Amaymon once last year and didn’t even feel like he showed much presence. But I picked up a few things about his character and wanted to check with other magicians who have worked with him.
Has anyone worked with Amaymon in this community? What would you say are his biggest specialties?
(NOT Lucifer, I mean Amaymon individually. They were always considered different in grimoire history for centuries until a certain modern book company decided to mess it up for no reason)
My experience with Lucifer-Amaymon is narrow, but hopefully helpful to you.
Amaymon is related to the hidden sun, one aspect of which is the gravitational power of the sun. This gravitational power is limitless, it doesn’t ‘run out’ like the conventional, nuclear sun which will burn through its fuel eventually, and is inherently limited by fuel volume.
For the magician, Amaymon teaches how to access this hidden solar force, unlimited power from within the self.
I have found Amaymon to be bloodthirsty, rapaciously consuming the energy from my blood offerings to him. It is a symbolic shortcut to a deeper principle. When we withdraw in deep meditation, in darkness and silence (blindfold and earplugs are great for this) we have entered what is symbolically referred to as Amaymon’s hidden chamber. When in this chamber, he can come and ‘consume’ the magician, swallowing them.
In literal sense, this is a reversal of the physical and astral senses from exteriority to interiority. If Amaymon swallows you in meditation ambient light filtering through your eyelids ceases. All sound from the outside world cuts off abruptly. You feel the reversal of your energy as it goes from flowing outward to flowing inward. All your external senses no longer sense anything external. All things experienced become internal.
It is more stark and shocking than someone flipping the lights off in a room while you are engrossed reading an excellent novel. It is utterly profound and beautiful.
I have only been swallowed by Amaymon once, so I cannot guide you further and teach how to proceed to the superpower within. It is a pathworking I have on hold and will resume on a future date.
At a certain point Amaymon only wanted to interact with me in his hidden chamber (literally in deep, dark, silent mediation). I would evoke him mentally in there. If you have had difficulty contacting him try reaching out to him in this manner.
Remember Amaymon consuming the magicians blood is the same principle as Amaymon consuming the magicians consciousness in meditation. Both of these are the same thing as the gravitational power (Amaymon) consuming and drawing in light, matter, and energy.
Not interested in your LHP philosophical ramblings about the “real source being darkness as opposed to the limited stellar light”. I get it, you worship your dark lord instead of light.
Now on topic. Amaymon is not Lucifer. Amaymon has a very different history. He actually comes from the Jinn current. Lucifer and Amaymon were always different throughout grimoire history before BALG decided to twist things. (Like always)
Again, any stories on REAL physical results with AMAYMON, not lucifer?
According to Ptolemy, the star is of the nature of Venus and Mercury. Alvidas, of Saturn in Pisces square Jupiter in Sagittarius: very fortunate and powerful, yet causing a sublime level of spiritual malevolence. So the description fits Amaymon’s character:
But ymmv, so everyone has to figure it out on their own.
I’m currently working on a ritual with Amaymon being one of the spirits i call. The ritual is still active. Will upgrade this post when results land.
My experience with amaymon may not be that much of interest to you and I respect it.
You previously Said that amaymon is connected to the jinn current and my question is: do you think amaymon is Harthan, harcana also called *abdalaa? Which is a clearly derived from islamic sources?
@Xag_darklight No. There are multiple islamic books outlining the Jinn kings who correspond to the 7 week days. The jinn king Maymon (Maymun) rulers over Saturday and is connected directly to Saturn. And this makes perfects sense regarding his alignment with the black sun, the shadows, and deathly draconic power.
The seven jinn kings are organized the same way as the seven sub-dukes in the Book of Honorius or Abramelin, (western grimoires) the seven related to the week days, among which is Amaymon.
In Islamic texts, Saturn (Zuhal) was often depicted as standing atop a dragon, which he directs. In Europe, this resembles depictions of Saturn riding his chariot across the sky being pulled by the dragon, which he drives with the reigns. (This explains Amaymon’s draconic qliphothic connection)
This idea that Amaymon is an aspect of Lucifer himself just shows people either have no historical grounds, or they’re just making up their own narrative of adversarial devil worship. (Calling everything a mask of the adversarial archetype, which they like naming Satan/Lucifer)
One thing i have to make clear is that there are numerous Maymons in Arabic magick. Maymon (ميمون) means Blessed. It’s a general term, not a name.
You have to signify WHICH Amaymon you’re calling. The Maymon connected to Saturn and wealth is Maymun abba Nuch (ميمون أبانوخ ), or the Blessed Father of Nuch.
I connect Amaymon abba Nuch to traditional Saturn (modern-day Uranus) through Aquarius as a planetary magick counterpart to the sephirotic Binah. Traditional Saturn connects to Capricorn, which seems to be how many magicians connect to Amaymon as a force of restriction, hence all the dour behaviour and black cloth in demonic conjurations of Amaymon. That behaviour seems to me to be black mages connecting Amaymon to Saturn through Capricorn and the Devil card, or bondage. The letter of this is tav, and reflects back with dark, restrictive energy and cursing your way to prosperity, which makes no sense to me at all. I see a LOT of magicians on here doing that type of work, especially on BALG. It doesn’t compute to me, but whatever.
I see it differently. Amaymon to me represents Aquarius via The Star tarot, or inspiration. Aquarius moves through aleph, which is an opening letter to tav’s closed one. Hence i conflate Amaymon with alpha Piscis Austrini (Fomalhaut), as i pointed out elsewhere. Fomalhaut is a royal star located directly south of Aquarius and is brighter than the alpha Aquarii (Sadalmelik), and also a luckier star (but also more malevolent). The malevolence of Fomalhaut is CONSTRUCTIVE malevolence. Aquarius represents technology and cooperation, both of which are doorways to wealth in the modern era. Silicon Valley is the wealthiest region in today’s world, and tech hubs are incubators for wealth today. Again the malevolence isn’t Capricornian legal restriction or cursing and binding as trad mages and demonolators enjoy so much. It’s constructive in that modern tech and AI are so POWERFUL that they clear the table of the junk of the past and roll over it, obsoleting everything in its way. It’s not the cruelty and vindictiveness mages and demonolators love so much or revel in. It’s just sheer raw power of progress - as Mark Zuckerberg says, move fast and break things. THAT kind of malevolence. So yes. I see Maymon very differently. I’m not one of the Call Belial For Everything mages you find on BALG. Yes i get it, if you’re old fashioned you can call Belial and Azazel to work with Amaymon, but there are other spirits out there and i feel there are better ways to call him emerging as time goes by and we learn more about our universe.
My sphere and planet correspondences to Maymon are:
Sphere: Understanding (Binah):
Godname: YHVH Elohim
Angels: Binahel + Tzaphqiel and Arathron with the Erelim
Shell: Valley (Gehenna or Valley of Gehinnom, equating to Sheol):
Demons: Thantifaxath + Lucifuge Rofocale and Belial with the Satorithim
Note: the following is uncharted territory in kabbalism, it’s just my view. Ymmv. Do what YOU do and get what you get.
Alternate Shell: Valley (Gehenna to Zion, or path to Glory)
Demons: Amprodias + Lucifer with (demon horde not given in trad kabbalism)
Planet: Uranus (Uranus)
Godname: not given. I use Elohim Elohim Tzabaoth
Planetary Angel & Spirit: Uriel + Maymon abba Nuch (Amaymon)
The Sphere and Saturn information is explained in Robert Ambelain’s book Practical Kabbalah, and elsewhere. Uranus wasn’t yet discovered when kabbalism was formulated, so it doesn’t exist in the system. I equate Saturn (Capricorn) and Uranus (Aquarius) with Binah, Jupiter (Sagittarius) and Neptune (Pisces) with Chesed, and Mars (Aries) and Pluto (Scorpio) with Geburah. Chokmah is for the fixed stars, there are no planets in Chokmah to me, although i do use it with the Sun (ecliptic conjunctions) and Moon (lunar mansions). Da’ath is for eclipses and planet/star conjunctions, again there are no single planets there but again i do equate Da’ath with Sun (Solar combustions) and Moon (lunar conjunctions). I also don’t put planets in Kether, which corresponds to Elyon or the Buddhic Field of Pure Thought. This is how i view the modern-day Tree Of Life with modern planets attached. Again this is MY gnosis, ymmv.
Kasfaya’il roughly equates to Tzadqiel in kabbalism.
To my way of thinking, Cassiel, Kasfaya’il, and Tzaphqiel are one and the same, and all of them are invoked to command the spirits of the planets Saturn in the names of YHVH Elohim and Abdba (or Abba Aba), including the spirit Maymon abba Nuch. But again ymmv and you’ll use whatever method YOU choose. This is just how i see it.
It’s funny you mention that, because I and a couple other occultists have all decided on Aquarius too, with a strong pisces influence. And him dealing with the shadow fits in well with this. (12th house pisces ruling subconscious troubles)
@theheirophant Exaclty. It’s not really sadistic destruction. Aquarius always represented the transcending of boundaries into further reaches of possibility. In context, this means while Capricorn provides structure and barriers, Aquarius breaks and reforms those barriers into new realms, which is what amaymon does with destruction. (In moving forward, the old is destroyed)
In dealing with the shadow, Amaymon does carry vibes of hatred and wrath, and will bring out those behaviors in people from where it resides most. I’ve gotten vibes of this. He uses wrath through the shadow to exert power.
When you do the work and call on him, the answers kick out at you.
I get yelled at and censored on these boards for pointing these things out, so i’m very glad someone else out there who has put in the legwork has come to similar conclusions. It validates what i’m doing. Thanks man
@theheirophant Btw, here is an excerpt from the Book of Oberon (1573) about Amaymon. Given that Amaymon’s original description lists his powers of dignities and riches, this is yet another connection with the Arabic Jinn name “Maymun” who bestows wealth. There’s also the Agrippa Occult Philosophy books that give him the same role.
And being described as a shadowy old man with a beard, symbolically, even further connects him to Saturn.
@Xag_darklight I kinda favor the book of Oberon’s hierarchy over the Ars Goetia, Pseudomonarchia, Book of Honorius, Grimorium Verum, etc. It seems much more complete, and makes more sense regarding who the entities fall under and what their powers are. Certain spirits’ powers are described differently here than the Ars Goetia. And from my personal experience with them, it’s more accurate too.
Here are some of the spirits who fall under Amaymon Particularly. And there’s Bileth again with the liberal arts.
In his book he has a pretty detailed section on Amaymon. From an astrological point of view he connects him to the Solar, the Lunar, Saturn, and Capricorn.
He also mentions three kings that appear with him:
He also talked about how the rod that he is described as holding maybe connected to the serpent rods other gods such as Hermes hold that symbolize power over life, death, and the ability to heal. In Islamic traditions this is connected back to Moses.
