Hello I’m new to self initiation to qlippoth and back when I was studying what is that mean to initiate into the qlippothic realms I once had already figure it out that it is a form of gaining knowledge or gnosis to each of these regions of this realms now while studying further information regarding to this matter i came across some sources i don’t know I already forgot but these articles are describing that it is also to gain powers in this realm that would be usable in physical or mundane sense what I do really understand from the word “power” means a supernatural power that can be impart on the initiate to achieve supernatural powers in physical manifestation just like throwing fire balls or shooting a thunderstruck tell me did any of my interpretation is pretty absurd or is it really possible that I can assume a supernatural power beyond the fabric of my whole being after initiation into the qlippoth ?
Sorry, but you will never be able to “throw fire balls” or “shoot lightning,” no matter what you initiate into. That stuff is pure comic book fantasy, and cannot happen on this physical plane.
You can learn how to manipulate flame by mastering the elements, but that will not turn you into a superhuman with explosive powers. It generally takes weeks to months of practice just to learn to focus your will and energy enough to make a candle flicker, especially if you’re a beginner.
If it was so easy to obtain superpowers just by initiating into a man-made concept like the Qlippoth, then there would be a lot more people running amok with their hands on fire, burning anyone who looked at them funny. A spiritual power is not the same thing as a physical power.
That’s just ridiculous! I shoot lasers all day long… pew pew
Look man! Don’t listen to anyone that says these things aren’t possible, because they are, you just have to understand that there are collective agreements and time capsules in place, the earths energy field is bigger than yours and that will affect your DNA as well…
I wouldn’t listen to the people on this forum, most of them don’t know the magick of the old world, these things are possible but you won’t find them on the occult traditions that have been made more public, these are very secret teachings and very advanced, it may take generations beyond this point to fully develop them but then again, it is possible, ive seen some real wizards and superhumans do some crazy stuff others would consider science fiction on this forum…
Keep believing because you’ll attract it, but also be careful what you ask for… you may not be ready for it and that’s the whole point of collective agreements
Frankly I sometimes wondered what did E. A. refer to in some occasions where he talked about having a lot of power (for example thank to the 4 Gatekeepers) and doing extraordinary things. Sure, maybe not (for example) making things appear and disappear, but then again there are limits even with “smaller” things such as the need for certain people to be already present in the life of the magician etc.
Elijah the prophet made fire appear. Surely he knew something other magicians didn’t know about at the time.
Jesus man, really?
If this forum is filled with people who don’t know the magick of the old world why do you continue to grace us here with your … powerful presence…mmm kay.
Look man @DarkestKnight tried to give the OP a reality check there’s not gonna be any fireballs or lightning bolts. That’s dungeons and dragons not the magick of “the old world”.
To the OP I’ve been through Qlippothic initiation and it’s a real bitch if you do it right. However me, nor anyone else I’ve ever heard of could throw fireballs afterwards. What you will gain is a fine attunement to infernal energies and entities of Sitra Ahra. That in and of itself is worthwhile.
Alright. I’ve just had to clean up over a dozen posts of off-topic nonsense. This is a polite reminder, folks, to please keep this thread on topic. The OP asked about the results of Qlippothic initiation, and whether or not physical powers result from it. It is not to debate the truth of subjective UPG.
But I guess EA Koetting told something that by working with nine demonic gatekeeper someone would unlock Godlike powers ? What I really understand when I heard those terms is having a supernatural power beyond the physical plane
What’s the point if it doesn’t materialize on the physical plane in every possible way? I’m not going to keep being presumptuous or keep assuming people don’t know it, but we live in our bodies, sort of making them top priority wouldn’t you say?
When you ascend it becomes very transparent
There are Siberian shamans for example that can collect higher dimensional honey like substances in jars and materialize them from higher planes… this possible with other things like shapeshifting
Essentially when you have more control over particle stimulation and rotation, you can manipulate matter and the elements, that’s how the qigong masters create fire and can perform telekinetic feats
To have conscious power over torus fields, electromagnetic energy and your merkhaba can grant “supernatural” abilities… there’s a science to this, that’s why I said before the moderator deleted some of my crucial points on this post, to those that got offended I said workings like the qlippoth are the blueprint, to develop these powers, but you still have to put in effort besides the pathworkings in order to unlock them, the qlippoth is like toolbox, The more you sit with the possibilities and exercise them you’ll unlock new tools, but for a human you have to understand the mechanics of the power the powers, how they function, how it’s possible, integrating the spheres helps with that higher consciousness
It’s like physical therapy, at first walking or movement at all may take extreme levels of effort, but the more you do it, it becomes effortless, like blinking or breathing, it’s subconscious, this goes with everything because the subconscious mind is everything that is beyond the physical brain, so rewriting reality in essence, that’s why things like words of power and incantations can create great change because it’s triggering subconscious DNA sequences
Before even worrying about obtaining comic book “supernatural powers,” you should probably focus more on actually learning the basics of magick first. You can’t expect to do high level quantum mechanics if you can’t even do basic calculus.
If you look at the Become A Living God website, you would know the “god-like powers” EA speaks of in his videos are Omnipotence, Omniscience, and Omnipresence, aka evocation, divination, and soul travel. Each of these art has many levels to it, and mastering them can be a life long pursuit.
I see what you’re getting into here. If that’s the goal of your magick, then I’m certain that you’d get there at some point in time.
People mock and ridicule “impossible feats” mind over matter until they’ve seen them demonstrated under adequate observation and the appropriate conditions necessary to prove new scientific discoveries.
I’d just disengage from other people’s opinions, because whenever you’ve fixed your gaze upon something and you’ve performed enough of the foundational feats and learned from people who laid those foundational principles down, and perhaps even seen it done in some way… You’ll get some of it if not all of it if you keep at it for as long as life permits you to keep moving forward.
One “power” I actually can report is that the spirits are actually listening to me and assisting me when I call them on the fly out in public or in the world outside my temple.
I’ve called several Goetic spirits with just thier name and seal as a mental focus point and gotten satisfying results.
I can say that was so before the 72 project and most recently Qlippothic initiation
Seals in random places… seems like a bad idea to me.
Not random at all. Doing a magickal working with nothing but your mind is a perfectly legitimate and effective way to do things. If you got the juice to be able to do it that is.
I agree, the first thing spirits taught me about magick is that it’s all mental
Like in Thor Ragnarok for example, Odin tells thor he isn’t the god of hammers and that mjolnir was only to focus his power, it’s all mental, magick isn’t beyond your consciousness, it’s literally in everything
Your spine is your staff, your mind is the will that shapes this reality, the most advanced magicians don’t use tools, it’s all mental, the concept of using seals and tools etc. came when we feel from godhood after Atlantis, before that we didn’t even need to eat anything everything was pure energy based existence
Well we can actually agree on something finally.i
IM familiar with this concept because it was taught toe in initiation into hermetics by Franz Bardon. I finished half the book myself. Very challenging excercises in that book.
Tools like wands and pentacles are nice but they’re really just training wheels and once you’re ready you won’t even need them
That’s not true at all. Once theyre charged or they’re part of a group oriented spiritual backing based in long withstanding societies using them and playing into their power and significance… it’s hard to even consider that such significant objects whose ties to well seasoned and heavily utilized ancient wisdom could value based in complacency or getting into one’s arrogant comfort zone.
Consider the oil from the olive for example.
Dude you’re talking to a ceremonial magician. I’ve got wands swords, blasting rods, brass singing bowls,. Crystal balls you name it i use it in my temple regularly. If you want proof of that statement review my journal "spirit of the day " in the journals section. I post pictures of my work and temple regularly.
I’m not a charlatan or an ignorant bastard.
I’m saying tools are awesome but they are focal points for your own abilities. A wand for example focuses your ability to direct energy and it keeps your attention focused on certain points in space time during ritual. What I’m saying is with practice and experience you are no longer dependent on these tools to work magick. Magick is inside of you and part of what makes you who you are.